Eisernes Kreuz I. klasse with case - but no serial

**Woolgar** · 12-07-2010, 11:42 AM

by Glenn66

What is it that identifies it as a Souval specifically?

Hi Glenn

Souvals are probably the easiest to recognise. I have posted a clearer pic of an EK2 Souval cross. Note the 'birds feet' on each corner of the beading and how rounded the inner beading corners are.

Nick

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 12-07-2010 11:42 AM

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**Glenn66** · 12-07-2010, 12:31 PM

Hi Nick,

A good tip thanks. I alway figured W&L's to be the easiest to spot due to the 'scrunched' ribs on the inner top right hand side of the frame. So now i know 2 easy spotters

Is the 'birds foot' perculiar to the Souval only? I see a reasonable number of EK's with this feature so in future i'll take note if they are marked 98 or not.
Also the rounded inner beading always makes me suspicious of a Floch but I don't think Floch's have the 'feet'.

Is there anything to look for to distinguish between post-war Souvals and TR era?

Thanks
Glenn

**Woolgar** · 12-07-2010, 02:37 PM

by Glenn66

Hi Nick,

A good tip thanks. I alway figured W&L's to be the easiest to spot due to the 'scrunched' ribs on the inner top right hand side of the frame. So now i know 2 easy spotters

Is the 'birds foot' perculiar to the Souval only? I see a reasonable number of EK's with this feature so in future i'll take note if they are marked 98 or not.
Also the rounded inner beading always makes me suspicious of a Floch but I don't think Floch's have the 'feet'.

Is there anything to look for to distinguish between post-war Souvals and TR era?

Thanks
Glenn

Now that I havent yet been able to figure out!

Nick

**dzyner** · 12-09-2010, 05:06 PM

Hi Ghibli, nice looking cross and in great condition! From what I can see in the photos the case is in exceptional condition as well. I have a couple cased EKIs, but I think you have me beat on overall condition with this one

**Ghibli** · 12-10-2010, 12:17 AM

Hey Dzyner, thanks for your message! I'd been lucky finding this cased one.
What about yours ? Would be great to see them, did you post some pictures on the forum already? - sorry I'm new to this thread - but I find it is excellent!!

**dzyner** · 12-10-2010, 12:47 AM

Ghibli, Collecting Iron Crosses can become an addiction so watch it

Here are a couple from my collection, an L/56 and an L/11, both both original cases...

Eisernes Kreuz I. klasse with case - but no serial

**Ghibli** · 12-10-2010, 01:35 AM

Very nice cased EKIs from your collection!! Thanks for sharing, that's awesome.

Addicted ? Oh yes, I'm afraid this is tool late for me

since got my EKI very recently and since I discovered your forum...

**swiss76** · 12-10-2010, 06:21 AM

I got a EK's just like dzyner's too, with L/11 stamped on the back.

But - what does that mean? Wartime or post war fake? I'm completely lost here.

**Woolgar** · 12-10-2010, 09:04 AM

by swiss76

I got a EK's just like dzyner's too, with L/11 stamped on the back.

But - what does that mean? Wartime or post war fake? I'm completely lost here.

Hi Swiss, Have a read of this thread and do some research on EKs there is plenty of information about. Can you post a pic of your cross please?

Cheers

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/order...crosses-27960/

Nick

**John Henderson** · 12-10-2010, 10:21 AM

Hi Nick, isnt it the flaw on the beading, on the 12 o clock arm second rib to third rib, that differenciates between war time and postwar crosses by Souval?
I thought crosses with this were wartime. Glenn66s cross has this flaw, so it looks like a good wartime cross.
regards John