Ek i class 1939 original or fake ???

**Dave2** · 06-14-2011, 10:59 PM

HI, What do you think about this ??? Thanks !

Krzy

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 06-14-2011 10:59 PM

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**Adrian** · 06-14-2011, 11:39 PM

Hi Dave and welcome to the forum.
I'll upload the pics here so the guys can take a look and also so we can have it for reference when the link is no longer valid.

**Woolgar** · 06-15-2011, 07:54 AM

The date looks thin, the swas sits low and the pin sticks a long way out from the cross, unless its just the photo angle

Nick

**Glenn66** · 06-15-2011, 08:35 AM

Thats what i noticed too, the catch seems very tall.

**Dave2** · 06-16-2011, 12:07 AM

That are ambiguous answers

**Adrian** · 06-16-2011, 12:48 AM

I don't know as much about EK1s as some of the other members here but from what I see above I would call it a fake. I can't relate it to any known original in terms of date style and reverse hardware.
Wait for a few more people to see the cross and offer their opinions.

**fabri** · 06-16-2011, 11:43 AM

Hello
you 're right guys, definitely cross is fake.

**Rudolf** · 07-01-2011, 11:21 PM

Hi, I already saw one of this. I think is good. The sieze is a perfect 44 cm on each side, on the back it has a solid, soldered, barrel type hinge very similar to the one used by Dreschler and Sohn of Munich, it has also a broad, tapering vertical pin not similar to the one of Dreschler but it seems good anyway, and it has also a heavy soldered catch not so tall as it looks from the photo. It is also a three part construction and made of iron. The swas stands out in high relief. I could not see the weigh but it looked like OK compared with other EK1 I had. One more thing the date was not very low. It seems to me is good unless someone could tell something different. For example, the catch of the Souval is very well known a cross with it comes from Souval, but this who knows. It is a great work on this cross to be a copy.

**Adrian** · 07-01-2011, 11:38 PM

Any thoughts on what looks like a hole in the reverse just below the hinge?

**fabri** · 07-02-2011, 11:02 AM

Nice report Rudolf but there are nicest postwar examples than this one. Similarities with Deschler or why not B.H.Mayer in the barrel hinge etc don't say anything of special to me because there are fakers that copy the originals.
But maybe I have to correct my "fake" afirmation with just postwar, I don't remember well because I don't love to study postwar EKs but maybe it 's a postwar from a contemporary factory, seems to me Rettenmaier (I repeat I don't remember well).
I think there is that hole because they use an unfinished backplate for the screwback type so the hole is for the antirotation pin.