Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes

**drml1958** · 10-16-2017, 02:51 PM

Hi guys, after your help again this time for this "knights cross". What are your thoughts? Always appreciate your insight into these things

Best regards

Michael

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 10-16-2017 02:51 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Saladin** · 10-16-2017, 04:12 PM

I don't like it Michael.
If it is supposed to be a Juncker lazy 2 piece it doesn't seem to have the dot flaw and the numerals look very spindly to me.

Cheers
Doug

**paulscoot** · 10-16-2017, 07:17 PM

This is what I believe is called "the Rounder fake" due to the shape of the inside edges of the frame ,enter RK rounder fake in the search facility for more info ,regards Paul

**harmonica** · 10-18-2017, 09:03 PM

where did it come from?

**rbminis** · 10-18-2017, 09:17 PM

by harmonica

where did it come from?

???????
What does that have to do with if it is original or not?

Ralph.

**harmonica** · 10-18-2017, 10:56 PM

well my uncle brought back 2 RKs from Germany...their last HQ was Munich.....adds credibility if you can authenticate where you got the memorabilia from
whats' with the many ?????

**rbminis** · 10-18-2017, 11:02 PM

by harmonica

well my uncle brought back 2 RKs from Germany...their last HQ was Munich.....adds credibility if you can authenticate where you got the memorabilia from
whats' with the many ?????

I just don't understand how your question relates to authenticity.
There are many originals that, after 70 years, can be found in many places.
Ralph.

**harmonica** · 10-18-2017, 11:11 PM

by rbminis

I just don't understand how your question relates to authenticity.
There are many originals that, after 70 years, can be found in many places.
Ralph.

my uncle was in WW2..he brought a lot of German memorabilia home
I--myself--was pretty sure the RKs were authentic because of where the RKs came from--my uncle
I didn't know a thing about RKs....but the chances of my uncle bringing home fake RKs from Munich/Germany was phenomenally low

**MAP** · 10-19-2017, 03:32 AM

by harmonica

my uncle was in WW2..he brought a lot of German memorabilia home
I--myself--was pretty sure the RKs were authentic because of where the RKs came from--my uncle
I didn't know a thing about RKs....but the chances of my uncle bringing home fake RKs from Munich/Germany was phenomenally low

I agree with you that provenance is an important element in many cases when authenticating an item. Primarily so with camo helmet, odd variations, etc. that are not black and white.

But I think in this case, the ID of this RK as a previously known fake negates the provenance "tool".

Regards,

Michael