New Photo Pick-Ups - Please Share

**big ned** · 06-18-2011, 07:58 PM

by donkihotis7

Guys check this dude out. Same hair style, same nose and shape of face is what i can match. I'm almost sure it's the same guy.

IF...It is the same guy, his name was Hubert Hirsch (10 Sept. 1916-1 Oct. 2006). He was a torpedo mechanic on the U-35 that was sank in the Dogger Bank area by Destroyers led by Lord Louis Mountbatten in December 1939 on her second war patrol. All the crew survived.

Regards, Ned.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 06-18-2011 07:58 PM

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**Bill T** · 06-18-2011, 08:45 PM

I will have to take a closer look guys. I didnt even think it could be him at first chris, but now that you say it....you could be right. He looks very similar. The other man I thought that looked like him was the bottom photo: front row, second in from left.
Ned, thats great that you have that kind of info on these photos! Thats awesome. Im very glad to hear that the whole crew survived! Again, thank you for posting this, very very interesting. Cant wait to look at it further.
It would be pretty amazing if it were him!

**don_kihotis7** · 06-18-2011, 09:41 PM

Guys does this patch indicate torpedo mechanic? If so there is more chance that it's actually the same guy.

**Bill T** · 06-18-2011, 10:35 PM

Chirs, very good inspection and comparisons. I dont know too much about KM, but I believe that patch to be more of a rank Patch than a trade/specialist patch. It represents "bootsmanns mate". (which I believe is an Unteroffizier/NCO rank). Maybe Ned or someone can give some more info, cuz like I said, I know little to nothing about KM except basic rank/dienstgrade.

Here they are together: The only that makes me think they are different men, is the man on the left has a "widows Peak" (little point in the middle of the hair on forehead)

**big ned** · 06-19-2011, 03:32 AM

by Panzer1031

Chirs, very good inspection and comparisons. I dont know too much about KM, but I believe that patch to be more of a rank Patch than a trade/specialist patch. It represents "bootsmanns mate". (which I believe is an Unteroffizier/NCO rank). Maybe Ned or someone can give some more info, cuz like I said, I know little to nothing about KM except basic rank/dienstgrade.

Here they are together: The only that makes me think they are different men, is the man on the left has a "widows Peak" (little point in the middle of the hair on forehead)

The patch is indeed that for a Bowswains mate. You may have nailed it here because Hirsch joined the crew to replace Wilhelm Jannsen who was a Bowswains mate already on board the U-35. Both were on the boat when it was sunk. I'm guessing that Jannsen was still on board in order to show Hirsch the ropes so to speak.

Below is a picture of Jannsen, far right, scraping mould off bread onboard U-35, showing his Boswains mate patch. He can also be seen in the photo that I posted with him next to Hirsch in the back row far right with the bald head. This is fascinating if true, Isn't it!!?? If only we could prove it beyond doubt. The evidence is quite compelling though, don't you think???

Regards, Ned.

**Bill T** · 06-19-2011, 04:37 AM

by big ned

The patch is indeed that for a Bowswains mate. You may have nailed it here because Hirsch joined the crew to replace Wilhelm Jannsen who was a Bowswains mate already on board the U-35. Both were on the boat when it was sunk. I'm guessing that Jannsen was still on board in order to show Hirsch the ropes so to speak.

Below is a picture of Jannsen, far right, scraping mould off bread onboard U-35, showing his Boswains mate patch. He can also be seen in the photo that I posted with him next to Hirsch in the back row far right with the bald head. This is fascinating if true, Isn't it!!?? If only we could prove it beyond doubt. The evidence is quite compelling though, don't you think???

Regards, Ned.

It definitely is VERY compelling. This is one of my favorite parts of collecting pics, is being able to put a name to the face! Then everything else falls into place with it. The times of his rank would match up as well! I was able to get into contact with a man named Robert (Bob) Henderson who is a well kown author and collector of Canadian POW camps! He was able to tell me that they did NOT keep archives/records of POW numbers unfortunately. But he is looking into it further for me. I will relay these details and ask him what he thinks.
Ned, those are some great photos BTW

**Bill T** · 06-19-2011, 04:48 AM

Well, to put the POW thing to the side for a second I figured I would share some photos that came today.

Army soldats in winter gear (alot of writing on back)

**Bill T** · 06-19-2011, 05:14 AM

- Afrika Korps/Tropical Soldats

- Nice photo from Panzer Regiment 2 !! Note the Black sidecap worn with grey uniform

**Bill T** · 06-19-2011, 06:11 AM

-Army Soldat in Camo trousers

- Soldats with Camo helmets at there komrades grave.
Photo Labeled - ARDENNES (or Ardennen) 1940 !!!!! Awesome! This would have obviously been before the "Bulge". Im guessing It must have been when the Germans crossed the Muese and into France taking Sedan and the Ardennes ETC.