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03-17-2011 11:37 PM
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Re: Stahlhelm photos, SA, and others - would like opinions
anyone have an idea of who the men are in the first photo at least??? Volksturm? Nskk?
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Re: Stahlhelm photos, SA, and others - would like opinions
Alright, here we go...
Photo # 1:
These are members of the SA. Some of the men have an additional badge on the sides of their cap turn-ups; this appears to be either the stemless EdelweiĆ worn by the Hochland district or the different pattern of EdelweiĆ with a stem as worn by ex-Austrian units. My guess is that the photograph was taken at a school/training facility.
Photo # 2:
An early Hitlerjugend member.
Photo # 3:
A WW1 veteran and member of the Stahlhelmbund, wearing the special Wehrsport collar patches. (example: http://i.ebayimg.com/15/!C!I%29J+QEW...ik08g~~_35.JPG )
Photo # 3/4:
Members of the Stahlhelmbund, again, all wearing the Wehrsport collar patches. Sitting in the front row, 2nd from left is a musician as identified by his "swallow's nests". Standing to the right of the sitting men with his profile turned to us, an Oberwehrmann as identified by his single sleeve chevron.
Photo # 5:
Again, Stahlhelmbund with Wehrsport collar patches. According to the text on the photo's back, they were photographed on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of the Rotenburg local unit, 15/16 August 1931. The sleeveshield worn by the men in the left foreground is the Landesverband insigne for Gau Unterweser.
(Super photo, by the way!)
Photo # 6:
Stahlhelmbund, once more. The man in the center appears to be wearing the special Jungstahlhelm collar patches. (example: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4706/dsc05232t.jpg ) The wide straps are certainly not a part of the uniforms, but pieces of equipment. They might be some type of Schleppriemen as used for man-handling heavy equipment, or simply flag bearer's bandoleers.
Photo # 6:
They are NSDAP Political Leaders.
Phtos # 7/8 and 9:
Sorry, WW1 is not my area of expertise, so I can't be of help there. (Still # 9 is another brilliant image!) The two men in the foreground of # 9 wear laced boots with leather gaiters.
Last edited by HPL2008; 03-18-2011 at 05:37 PM.
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Re: Stahlhelm photos, SA, and others - would like opinions
HPL, I know you are probably sick of hearing me say thank you but, THANK YOU. I know it must have taken a while to write this, so I appreciate your time. I now understand why in the first photo, they are using a Civi Bike. I completely misidentified them as NSKK, but the Hochland SA with stemless edelweiss makes complete sense now. I wouldnt have thought of that and I am very suprised they are SA actually. I appreciate the ID on the Wehrsport insignia. I have seen these without the wehrsport writing on them before I believe. There is also a Jungstahlhelm collar tab for sale on estand. But again, I am glad I can now spot them in future photos. The sleeveshield is interesting to me. (thanks for the translation). I thought it was something related to Rotenburg, so now I know different. I have learned alot from u here. I think I will start to research the Stahlhelmbund more. It seems like there is alot to learn about them. I really did not think those were gaiters in #9, so that is why I asked. The ones on the left looked odd to me, but I agree now of course. Also, I see some members of Stahlhelm wear the "Der Stahlhelm" membership badge on there caps......was this not done by everyone?
Its too bad that some of these photos are not the clearest or sharpest images. But they are still pretty neat, seeing though they are not seen in regular photo sales very often. They were very "affordable" since the seller had not a clue as to origin of the photos. Im just glad there are a couple clear stahlhelm shots in the group. Thank you again my friend, your knowledge always impresses me.
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