wow these finds are staggering,my short replies dont do them justice
wow these finds are staggering,my short replies dont do them justice
LOL !
In reply to your earlier question by the way, the dump is spread over an area approximately the size of a football pitch. In all, probably about one quarter of this area has been searched. And that's taken a great many visits. If you spent every day digging for a year you probably still wouldn't clear the site
Steve T
- that worries me a bit though. When are they planning to build the wet thing here?If you spent every day digging for a year you probably still wouldn't clear the site
Yeah, its a NAAFI Spoon also on the bit of knife,, shows a tiny /|\
Does anyone know how to ID the unit numbers on my butt plate and butt disc?
Mouse
I looked at those DM. Now stop beinf lazy and go find out for yourself !!
Lee Enfield Rifle Markings
And if that don't help, go here......
3 Markings-Reading-Organizations | The Lee Enfield Rifle
......plenty of links to other resources.
Steve T
Woo TY Steve,
I found 4 butt discs now all with details of some sort or another... now to work out what they mean...
1st disc reads - 6.96 M SL 333 RGA = well I'm still baffled... SL=The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment) (2nd Battalion) S.L. and RGA=Royal Garrison Artillery pah... I knew this would not be straight forward
2nd disc - 3 1894 1 V M I A 341 = Volunteer Militia Infantry (Canadian)
3rd disc (i got excited about this one) - ? 9 V 2.K T . A 141 = Volunteer in 3rd KTA?, can't see KTA anywhere
4th disc - 53S 24 = PAH! is this a joke!
Also to add to my fun, I have a rifle butt with markings on... 19LD, 331, 4 CAM, 5 7(or Y) 3 each of these lines have been over stamped with lines to strike them out? 19th The Light Dragoons, 331st company - 4th Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, 573rd Company?
My head hurts now and I feel I got no-where!
Please help if you know I have completely ballsed this up or if you know what any of this stuff should be.
Mouse x
Lucky, i think ive just ided that long rod you found, i was trawling through a RSA website and saw the description of the BOYS ATR, there was a system whereby a no/4 rifle was converted to shoot a .22 round whilst being secured to the side of a Boys atr, but also a ,22 round that was placed inside the larger casing for the .55 , there is a full picture of the extractor rod and i believe this matches perfectly to the one you found, also there are some brackets that were used to secure the no/4 to the BOYS, i think these have been seen on site but thought they were for machines and discarded
Correction..... its not an extractor rod but an expellor rod issued by Parker Hale, google Boys ATR, scroll down to 1st "Enfield Boys listing" then scroll through to convertor photos
Hi all
Well, I was having a root through my many finds from the site, trying to decide what to clean next, when I came across the rubber thing I'd dug up. At first I thought it was the sole of a shoe. However, it's rather an odd shape and too thick to be the sole of a shoe. Looking at it again this morning, I am almost positive I know what it is.
What do you think ?
Rubber shoulder pad for a PIAT ??
It is isn't it. I'm sure of it. One half has been fire damaged and it's missing a corner, but the intact end has the shape of a PIAT shoulder pad. If it is, it's a GREAT find !!
No1 end in the picture for scale.
yeah ofc its a PIAT butt plate, shame its a bit burnt, but great find
Mouse
Last edited by dangermouse; 09-15-2011 at 10:53 PM. Reason: i never changed this... honest
A update on my butt discs..
2nd disc - 3 1894 1 V M I A 341 = issued in 1894, to a Volunteer in the Volunteer Militia Infantry (Canadian), 341s company. YAY...
3rd disc (i got excited about this one) - ? 9 V 2.K T . A 141 = Volunteer in 3rd KTA?, can't see KTA anywhere ... I'm working on the assumption that the top row is infact 1894, although all that can be seen clearly is the 9 and part of the 4. but the more interesting part is that upon cleaning the back, I find that at some point it has been tuned over and screwed back on to the rifle the other way around, making a poor quality bevel worn by the screw being tightened. On this side it is stamped 7 5 1 L ? 7 although at this point that means nothing to me!
And those bigger but plates don't seem to come from Martini Henry rifles, but either from the Long Lee Enfields or Lee Metford as they both seem to use the same three screw type long top type. See pics below.
however I have also four butt plates that have no oil bottle door, look pretty much the same as Lee Enfields, but I have no idea what they are off, and one very large thin butt plate with no oil bottle door again. Dave thought about BOYS, but its certainly not that after looking at a BOYS one as its all curved and thick.
Your truly puzzled little Mouse
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