1211/39 M33 SS dagger for review

**gerrit** · 10-14-2014, 11:17 AM

by youthcollector1

I can't add any useful opinions but this might help determine whether there is or isn't black paint on the eagle.
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Thx YC,

there is black paint above the eagles head and on the feathers of the lower wingtip.

This would be a no go for me.

Regards,
Ger

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 10-14-2014 11:17 AM

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**Mac 66** · 10-14-2014, 02:24 PM

Krisse,

The grip has been messed with, Why ?, maybe it was chipped or cracked then somone decided to make it look better

looks painted then a clear coat applied imo

Not one for me either, plenty more fish in the sea

Regards Mac 66.

**KRISSE** · 10-14-2014, 04:28 PM

Got some more pictures from the seller. Looks like there's no paint above the eagles head.

**Lakesidetrader** · 10-14-2014, 04:40 PM

The hole in the tang is an easy giveaway.
These bargains quickly fall apart in the light of day.

**KRISSE** · 10-14-2014, 04:47 PM

Thanks Paul. Does it means that a tang with a hole in it, always means fake? I did not knew that. :-)

**Lakesidetrader** · 10-14-2014, 04:56 PM

I never say always but... on SS blades marked 1211/39 ALWAYS.
Now on Klaas army daggers we often see a hole.

**KRISSE** · 10-14-2014, 04:59 PM

Thank you Paul for enlightening me. Cheers.

**KRISSE** · 10-14-2014, 05:02 PM

On the other hand,... if this is a fake blade,... then why should a faker make a hole in the tang?

**Wagriff** · 10-14-2014, 05:08 PM

Hole in tang = Death Knell. Just another 1211/39 fake. As I said before, some collectors won't even consider these and think of them All as suspect. But in any case-this one is absolutely not authentic. (btw..there's no paint above the eagles head, but you can see where it Was. The seller has noticed it and scratched it off, from the looks of it, but you can still see the traces on the runes button, the wing tip and also, it looks, the inside of the upper guard)

**KRISSE** · 10-14-2014, 05:11 PM

by Wagriff

Hole in tang = Death Knell. Just another 1211/39 fake. As I said before, some collectors won't even consider these and think of them All as suspect. But in any case-this one is absolutely not authentic. (btw..there's no paint above the eagles head, but you can see where it Was. The seller has noticed it and scratched it off, from the looks of it, but you can still see the traces on the runes button, the wing tip and also, it looks, the inside of the upper guard)

Thanks Wagriff. I can see it now crystal clear. Thank you for the advice. Again I learned a bit more now. Great forum. Great members! Cheers.