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Re: Chained SS dagger opinions
Plenty of examples here on Bill Shea's site, both types one and two of the chain, some plated, some blackened. Also note the difference in the top two links of the type one and two chains, the former straight, the latter bevelled.
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Re: Chained SS dagger opinions
I would like to add some additional info to supplement what Ned has posted.
The Type 1 and 2 designations are, of course, collectors terminology. These were applied many years ago now. Much is this has now passed into collector folklore and is a bit out of date. The "type 2" actually came out first which can be misleading to the new collector.
The big differences are the design of the skull and the design proof mark on the reverse of the chain. There is also a much rarer newer designated "type 3" skull desgn link, of which I am very fortunate to own on my now well known Dr.Lolling dagger.
There are also variations to the design of Wotan's knot and the centre ramp fittings.
I will take some pics to illustrate these points.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: Chained SS dagger opinions
Great ! thanks Ned and Adrian! I got an opportunity to check out the other chained SS in the first pic,the unmarked one. I am amazed I did not ever notice the difference between the two chains. never thought there was ever an issue because the one bad chain had what seemed to be a correct mark. I will post the second dagger in this thread to see what you guys think. but,I think you guys will like the next one!
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To piggyback what Bruce Petrin said on the topic, I also believe there is a so-called Type 3 chain which has some subtle feature regarding the skull that's different. The septum maybe? I think the Type 3 also has an extra screw on the center scabbard fitting & an anodized scabbard finish. Oddly enough I had one of these 10 years ago & flipped it because I didn't like the condition which was nice enough but not good enough for my taste. From what I understand they are quite scarce & can bring a premium with the right SS collector, if only I knew then what I know now.
ADDENDUM, I must have missed the 2nd page of this thread, seems I'm repeating Ade, sorry!
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