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Article about: Hi guys, need your opinions on this SS dagger - manufacturer is P.D. Lüneschloss Solingen - RZM 1053/38. It´s with Ralf Siegert certificate, who´s the expert on III.Reich cold weapons, but a

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    Hi guys,

    need your opinions on this SS dagger - manufacturer is P.D. Lüneschloss Solingen - RZM 1053/38. It´s with Ralf Siegert certificate, who´s the expert on III.Reich cold weapons, but as you know, certificate isn´t often the only mark of thrue original. So, thanks for your opinions and help.

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    Thomas

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    As you rightly say- certificates are note worth the paper they were written on - Champagne SS decals!

    Anyway - the dagger is fine - with good fittings - the blade is not the best however it all comes down to price - one like that I wouldn't pay more than a thousand euros!!

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    No, the dagger is fooled with. The crossguards don't belong to this dagger.
    It's a later RZM type dagger which may not have a lower crossguard with a districtmark on it...
    This one has a lower nickel guard marked with a Roman 'I' which is not correct for a later type.
    These should have plated guards.

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    cross graining ?

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    Original ? RZM 1053/38 SS Chained Dagger

    Dagger overall is questionable ...mostly the WKC RZM code..being used and called PD Luneschloss.

    SS Dagger - original or false?
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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Original ? RZM 1053/38 SS Chained Dagger

    Dagger overall is questionable ...mostly the WKC RZM code..being used and called PD Luneschloss.

    SS Dagger - original or false?
    The dagger you show Larry is 1058.
    The one that started the thread is 1053...

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    This one looks to be yet another put together. The "I" marking on the guard tells the story. To see it on an RZM blade in a painted sheath is definitely not correct.
    William

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    Quote by KRISSE View Post
    The dagger you show Larry is 1058.
    The one that started the thread is 1053...
    Yes you are correct Krisse ..I do show a 1058..and you also clicked "Like" on the post I made.

    ,,on the connecting link I left. I dont shoot from the hip without gathering statistics first.

    So what are your thoughts then on RZM1053 /38 .. using a WKC identity?

    You do see this dont you ? ..I am hopeful that a study ensues from this topic.

    Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Yes you are correct Krisse ..I do show a 1058..and you also clicked "Like" on the post I made.

    ,,on the connecting link I left. I dont shoot from the hip without gathering statistics first.

    So what are your thoughts then on RZM1053 /38 .. using a WKC identity?

    You do see this dont you ? ..I am hopeful that a study ensues from this topic.

    Regards Larry
    Ah I see now Larry.
    I didn't saw the other thread yet of the 1058...
    Got to say that I am really not home in the study of later SS daggers,
    but for me it's clear that the 1053 above is a put together the least.

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