SS Dagger for viewing...

**Frogprince** · 08-31-2010, 06:24 PM

by KW355

I am not an expert but it looks like the scabbard has been painted and the blade shortened on the first one, also the bottom crossguard and scabbard gap seems odd. Bigger photos may help

That’s my impression of it also, with the observation that it seems to be a mixture of ill fitting parts. And better and more close up photos would certainly help. Especially with something that is going to cost in the neighborhood of $2000.00 dollars.

Brian, A few months back, an acquaintance of mine showed me a M 1933 dagger he had just purchased at $2500.00 being very pleased to get one at that price. And in a display case from 4 or 5 feet away, I can see where he might have felt that way. To cut to the chase: It was a conglomeration of parts, some old, some altered, and some probably of much more recent manufacture. There is a tradeoff between price and originality. And was he willing to pay $2500.00 for some TR era parts that were now components of an altered/put together dagger? ((In his case the answer is no, and he got his money back.)

I also have problems with the second dagger. One of which: Is that supposed to be a TR era factory finished blade? Regards, FP

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 08-31-2010 06:24 PM

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**blackheart0866** · 08-31-2010, 06:33 PM

OK, I think i see what you mean, after looking closely , and blowing up the pics.

thanks for the input.

Brian

**Frogprince** · 08-31-2010, 06:55 PM

Brian, You can be the judge, and it's not the same as an an actual side by side look. But here is a side by side image of the two blades that are both supposed to be 1939 vintage RZM daggers. Regards, FP

**wagner** · 09-02-2010, 05:17 PM

Both daggers have fake blades. Spurios etching for the maker marks and mottos. Fake grips, fake grip eagles, fake SS roundels.
Clearly the scabbard doesn't fit the crossguard on the first dagger. Besides being repainted, probably an SA scabbard.

Get away from both of these very bad daggers made to deceive only the novice.
You would only be throwing away your money on trash.

-wagner-

**blackheart0866** · 09-02-2010, 05:32 PM

Yes, I walked away from both of these.

Thanks
Brian

**Lakesidetrader** · 09-12-2010, 01:51 PM

Brian that Puma is an outright fake.
Sorry

**85ronnies** · 09-13-2010, 10:23 PM

100% with you on that Ian ......its a bad one

**crazy horse** · 09-13-2010, 10:39 PM

Brian, being the newb I am , I would probably been all tickled over them also, till I saw the blades side by side, man the width difference is horrible, sorry for you man, would have been a dream for me too 2 SS daggers at one whack, but I'm not rich like you. just a joke. glad you didn't get ripped off, make sure the guy see's the pic's then watch him squirm.

**blackheart0866** · 09-13-2010, 10:42 PM

That's why i ask questions about TR items here before i spend a lot of money , as there are experts in here, with vast experience of knowledge, and they all are willing to share, and help, which is great.

Thanks guys, all of the info is greatly appreciated.

Brian