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SS Prototype Dagger by Alcoso

Article about: I took notice to the top of the crossguard as it has some wear and stain issues..Im wondering if it was wrapped up with the hangrs twisted around it and possibly gotten wet during the Vet ac

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    In 1972 a living colleague of mine visited Germany on a monthly bases he states that the skills were certainly in place to create masterpieces such as this.
    Names That Might Have Resonance With Mature Members.
    The Late Karl Fortmann,And Robert Kurtain, (Agent) Walter Nordmeier.

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    Reading the name Walter Nordmeier (from Hagen), I remember
    this dealer did send lists in the early 1970's, which included
    practically ever dagger and sword/sabre from the TR-period.

    I was warned in those days by a well respected German dealer from
    those days, as it was said in Germany his material would include
    fakes of any kind! If this was true and correct, I cannot remember
    anymore after so many years (45 or about). I never did buy from him!

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    no words...looks increddible

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    Quote by luftyluftylufty View Post
    In 1972 a living colleague of mine visited Germany on a monthly bases he states that the skills were certainly in place to create masterpieces such as this.
    Names That Might Have Resonance With Mature Members.
    The Late Karl Fortmann,And Robert Kurtain, (Agent) Walter Nordmeier.
    I recall those names and am familiar with their wares. However, although they did fake work at the time means nothing unless they can be definitely can be connected to this dagger. To the best of my memory, this prototype dagger was found in the mid to late 60's.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    It Is Most Likely That This Dagger Was A Vet Bring Back

    And That It Walked Into Hotel Buy Sometime

    High End Fakes Were However Ordered And Produced In The 1960s .

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    There were two of these Alcoso "prototypes", the one that turned up in Florida and found its way to the late John Pepera's collection and a second in the collection of the late Robert Waitts.

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    Quote by luftyluftylufty View Post
    It Is Most Likely That This Dagger Was A Vet Bring Back

    And That It Walked Into Hotel Buy Sometime

    High End Fakes Were However Ordered And Produced In The 1960s .
    Of that I am aware. James Atwood was the first to have such items produced and sold in the North American market.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    Quote by Gastvrijheid View Post
    There were two of these Alcoso "prototypes", the one that turned up in Florida and found its way to the late John Pepera's collection and a second in the collection of the late Robert Waitts.
    If There Are Differences Between Both Daggers ,However Subtle, Perhaps They Were Produced At Different Times ? Perhaps One Is Period With The Second Being Assembled Using Mostly Period Parts Later?
    Whatever Conclusions Are Drawn These Items Are Now Both "Text Book" By Definition.

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