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Fake or not fake?? Yosegaki flag

Article about: Hi, the last year I bought an Japanese flag of the W.W.II. Can you tell me what you think about it? I enclose some photos

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    Hi, the last year I bought an Japanese flag of the W.W.II. Can you tell me what you think about it? I enclose some photos






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    Looks a good one to me. I don't know a lot, but the flag does look real
    - and very collectible - with about as much 'writing' ( Kanji )
    as you'd ever see on one of these.

    Nicely framed too. Is it a veteran bring back.........?
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Hi Steve, thank you for the reply! the flag was send me from Osaka (Japan).
    Yesterday I look on ebay and I see other flag with the same seller! The other flag are similar at my!
    For this I have some uncertains about the authenticity of it!
    (sorry for bad english)!
    Regards.

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    Had they invented indelible marker pens in the 1940's? It sure looks to me like some of the larger kanji at least could be done by one, note the 'stop' and 'start' marks, that's not done with a brush is it? I would say more probably a bullet tipped marker pen, what do others think?

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    I see what you're getting at Ned - it's basically the five large figures
    on the right hand side - ink bleed at the stop/start of each of the
    'transparent' lines - smaller characters have also been
    drawn around these.

    It wouldn't make sense to add anything extra if the smaller
    characters are authentic, but I suppose anything can
    be faked. Anyone else have ideas.........?
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    I am thinking that these stop and start marks could be from using a dip pen or a fountain pen? Wouldn't there be a blip of ink where the nib is first set down and the ink gets thinner as you move it? I grew up using ink pens and I remember distinctly making some God-awful messes with them. And writing on cloth where the ink would soak into and bleed out would be even worse, I would imagine. Actually, I am liking this flag as a good one. There sure is an impressive number of signatures. If what I'm thinking of is right, the red stamp indicates a school or academy? And so, this probably represents an entire school.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Anyone else have ideas.........?

    I have an idea that I cant see the photo(s)

    Best Regards,

    Andy

    Aha! I see 'em now!
    Last edited by aj4010; 06-11-2012 at 06:42 PM.
    Best Regards,


    Andy

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    Why you can't see the photos?
    About the stamps? they are not made by hand! And so How are imprinted on the flag?
    But some signature seem just a mess! Booo

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    Mara, the Red marks(3 squares and a round one) are an ink stamping-probably from a school or academy. The Black markings are ink signatures written by hand with pen. Some are larger some are smaller. Some may include a sentiment. It is a nice flag and fully original in my opinion.
    William

    "Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."

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    Hi Mara , you have no problems here , your flag is very nice and totally original . The red stamps are from shinto shrines where the flag had been blessed . Incidentally the large kanji on the right - KI BU UN CHOU KYUU - interprets to I PRAY FOR YOUR LASTING MILITARY FORTUNE . Most of the other smaller kanji are signatures from friends , family and well wishers
    REGARDS AL

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    Always a little further : it may be
    Beyond that last blue mountain barred with snow
    Across that angry or that glimmering sea...

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