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Japanese Arisaka bayonet identification?

Article about: Ok so I recently got this Arisaka bayonet - but I am not sure of it's origin. As far as I can tell there are no visible makers marks - so I would very much like some help!

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    Default Japanese Arisaka bayonet identification?

    Ok so I recently got this Arisaka bayonet - but I am not sure of it's origin. As far as I can tell there are no visible makers marks - so I would very much like some help!
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    Odd. Looks like a relic that was cleaned up (or maybe a copy). Lots of pitting which is maybe why there is no visible markings on it. The press stud on both sides has way too gap for it not to be cleaned IMHO.
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    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    The owner thought it may have been a rougher Chinese made bayonet during the Second Sino-Japanese war?

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    Possibly. When I said copy I should have been more clear. Not a "Repro / Fake" but a local copy.

    Lets see what others say
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Ah, right - hopefully someone can shed more light!

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    The poor machining on the pommel supports a copy theory but either way it is still heavily pitted and has been scrubbed. Additionally, I have not seen that diamond rivet pattern.

    Let's see what others have to contribute.
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    It'll be interesting to see if anyone has any ideas to add

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    With the extent of the pitting my thoughts are perhaps a ground dug Item.Attempts to free the mortise button with heavy blows using something, perhaps a hammer looks to be the cause of the deformation of the press stud and is likely the cause of the split on the pommel.as far as the grip plates and rivets I cannot say..

    Regardless it is what it is, thanks for showing it.Regards,Geoff

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    I would say a Japanese Training Bayonet for the multitude of Training Rifles produced by the Japanese...BILL
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    I also think trainer

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