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Real or fake NCO 95 Gunto

Article about: The most fakes are Obvious, this sword makes me wonder. What do you think of it?? ? Marktplaats - Cookiewall

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    Thanks Stu, I am thoroughly enjoying my study of these gunto. At the risk of hyjacking this thread (I don't know, should we bump over to your sticky'd thrread about the history of the IJA Type 95?), I'm on the road and don't have my Dawson with me, but I was re-reading Ohmura's page. He seems to indicate that a lot of things happened in 1940. Did Dawson put the date at 1944?
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    Hi Bruce,

    I see the chart and remain a bit confused as to your query. Perhaps we are talking about two different things here? The cannonball mark was used at different times in different places to the best of my understanding. Are you asking if it was still in use by Kokura after 1940?

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    Stu

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    Yes, communication is a terrible thing, just ask my wife! In the row concerning the Kokura use of the cannonball stamp, talks of their use of the stamp even after the "organization revision in 1940". Isn't this a reference to Nagoya & Tokyo First taking over from Kokura in 1940 vs 1944?

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    Interesting dialog, so this is an early NCO Gunto type 95 ?
    First stamp is from Seki Tōken Co,Ltd.
    Second is Army Arsenal Nagoya Factory , this is also on the blade??
    Third is Army Arsenal Kokura Factory

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    Quote by marivo View Post
    Interesting dialog, so this is an early NCO Gunto type 95 ?
    First stamp is from Seki Tōken Co,Ltd.
    Second is Army Arsenal Nagoya Factory , this is also on the blade??
    Third is Army Arsenal Kokura Factory
    Yes. It is believed that maybe Nagoya "cold-stamped" their inspectors marks by the serial number, causing them to come out lighter and harder to read than the Tokyo First inspector mark.

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    Here's my pair's markings left is the same

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    Quote by reneblacky View Post
    Here's my pair's markings left is the same
    Rene, Out of curiosity, have you every disassembled your type 95s? The reason I ask is I'm collecting data on gunto with the "W" stamp on the nakago. I've got 3, with the stamp, and 2 of the 3 (the 3rd has a steel fuchi) and both are made by the Ijima factory. I'm wondering if any from Nagoya have the stamp. If you havent and don't want to, no worries!

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    Sorry Mate I haven't

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