question on ss officers buckle

[Ben Evans]

Both together

[papapanzer]

Ben,
Thanks for the examples.I have been traveling,and in an antigue shop in South Carolina,I came across an SS enlisted man's buckle for sale.After examining the buckle and applying what I learned on this forum from you ,I told the shop owner that the buckle was bogus-fake-and should be sold
accordingly.He so noted the buckle.Without the knowledge gained in this forum,I would have purchased this buckle as original.
Thanks,
Peter

[Ben Evans]

Good one Peter, nice to see you have learnt from the forum and applied what you now know

[papapanzer]

Hi Ben,
Referring to our discuusion on my unmarked SS officers buckle of 9-16-11,I came across an unmarked example today on Collector's
Guild.It is Very similar to mine,with what appears to be slightly up turned ends on the prong sleeve,and a similar crimp.Their buckle is being sold as original-$2805!! As we discussed,there are ALWAYS exceptions to everything in collecting Third Reich.I thought you would appreciate seeing another similar example.Education never stops.
Peter

[Ben Evans]

Peter, they are different buckles, look at the prongs on the one on Collectors Guild, to me they are typical Assmann with the bent prongs, like this Police one

[Ben Evans]

Assmann Keeper on a Heer Brocade

[papapanzer]

Ben,I see what you mean on the bent prongs.Do you think the Collector's Guild buckle is an unmarked Assmann piece?What do you think
about the crimp style? Anyway, it is an unmarked piece which you had not seen before.
Peter

[Ben Evans]

Peter

If you look very carefully at the crimps, I think they have been damaged, the left crimp has been broken off half way down to me this is a late war pot metal unmarked buckle, there is an example in Angolias book

[Ben Evans]

Here you go

[Ben Evans]

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