HJ Belt buckle TAG Help please

[Carfin LEWYS]

Hi,

Can you please help me for the explanation of this HJ Belt buckle TAG ? (A 4 - Hersteller 249 - S3).
The buckle is a: Assman A&S ges. gesch. RZM 17: in Nickel.
Thank you very much.
Best regards from Alsace , France.
Carfin.

[ivanjoaquin]

This HJ RZM tag don't correspond to a buckle
"A" correspond to machine woven cloth insignia

[Rescue190]

Tag is not correct as ivanjoaquin stated. Buckle is suspect as well.
John

[ivanjoaquin]

More pics of the buckle are needed but it looks good to me

[Carfin LEWYS]

Hi,

Thank you for replies.
What is the signification of S3 on the tag, please.
Some pics of the HJ Buckle, thank you for your opinion.
Best regards from Alsace , France.
Carfin.

[Wilhelm Saris]

as mentioned, the tag to the buckle is bogus.
To make it more interesting a tag for cloth
insignia (Textilabzeichen) was added
from the concern 249, which is Gerhard Unger
from Wilkau-Hasslau.

If you own it, you could have checked it all in the
HJ-handbook.
The indications for the last bar are not explained
in the RZM-sources (as far as I know)! It is an
early nickle-silver buckle. I do not know if this form
was ever faked. Here must answer the real experts,
but when I collected in the 1970's I also had one.....
I bought it in 1972.

[ivanjoaquin]

The buckle is a original multi marked Assmann buckle

[zeppelin]

in very good condition !!!

[Carfin LEWYS]

Hi gentlemen,

Thank you for replies & explications.
All my apologize, I have your book, but I have still not read the chapter 6 of your book: "Handbook of the HJ".
I have another buckle from Assman A&S ges. gesch. RZM 17 but dénazified.
Some pics from this buckle.
Best regards from Alsace , France.
Carfin.