Maker Question

**weller** · 01-13-2016, 06:53 PM

M4/79 Hillenbrand & Bröer also stamped the HJ buckles with RZM 4/79 - no 'M'

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-13-2016 06:53 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Gwar** · 01-13-2016, 06:59 PM

by Wewelsburg

So with other words, you could be warned and suspended for having a maker mark that looked like crap or was not right done?

The Reichszeugmeisterei ( RZM ) had set forth the protocol...

**yellow12** · 01-13-2016, 07:07 PM

Hello,

than i will see to catch it...........

Is not in best condition but i think a seldom maker.............

First i was not shure about originality............

**Wewelsburg** · 01-13-2016, 07:20 PM

"You shall not pass!!"

I'm looking forward to see the rest of it, very interesting with this rare makers!

**Gwar** · 01-13-2016, 07:25 PM

by yellow12

Hello,

than i will see to catch it...........

Is not in best condition but i think a seldom maker.............

First i was not shure about originality............

I think that would be a great addition to your collection..

**weller** · 01-13-2016, 07:27 PM

by yellow12

Hello,

than i will see to catch it...........

Is not in best condition but i think a seldom maker.............

First i was not shure about originality............

From the small photo the buckle looks good to me

**Wewelsburg** · 01-13-2016, 08:03 PM

Good that you mentioned your 4/79 Jeff, I have not seen it before

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/hitle...broeer-563404/

**weller** · 01-13-2016, 08:29 PM

by Wewelsburg

Good that you mentioned your 4/79 Jeff, I have not seen it before

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/hitle...broeer-563404/

Yes, my "triplets"

**Ben Evans** · 01-13-2016, 08:52 PM

A first for me Markus but I think the buckle is original but the markings have me confused. I do like Wims theory but again who knows. A nice and interesting enigma buckle IMO

**Wilhelm Saris** · 01-14-2016, 10:14 AM

by Wewelsburg

So with other words, you could be warned and suspended for having a maker mark that looked like crap or was not right done?

You could be suspended for many things. The RZM controllers looked for quality!

That's why so many buckle makers lost their permission throught the years.
We all know the M4-list, but no one ever listed those loosing their permission.
Over 30 it was! Only a few did get back their old number/permission. Just a few!

After the publishing of the RZM-handbook in 1935 already some did loose
their permission: 5, 8, 9 17, 21, 31, 50, which was Willy Thuy (fakes are known
from this concern).