Reichscheer marine 2 piece buckle

**Buckle1** · 07-26-2010, 05:53 PM

This the first one of these I have ever encountered and it is a good one. I sent photos to Tom Reed and he was kind enough to give his blessing on it. A very early two piece Reichs marine EM buckle assembled with a WWI box with a brass face plate. There have been a number of 2 piece Reichsmarine buckles that are fakes. This is not. Comments are welcomed.

Bill

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 07-26-2010 05:53 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Ben Evans** · 07-26-2010, 06:18 PM

Wow Bill a very early bird indeed, I think that is probably the third one I have ever seen, Sven Janke used to have one (may still have)

**David North** · 07-27-2010, 07:05 AM

A super and rare buckle Bill.

As you so correctly say, the buckle (one piece and two piece) is faked and it is of course a very desirable item for any collection.

No problems whatsoever with yours and yet again, we are seeing an Imperial box which has been converted to a later period use.

The two rings on the reverse of the box are very interesting and I have attached images of a buckle which displays something similar.

Regards,

David

**David North** · 07-27-2010, 07:06 AM

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**David North** · 07-27-2010, 07:07 AM

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**David North** · 07-27-2010, 11:40 AM

Here are images of one of the "easier" to spot Reichsmarine fakes.

Regards,

David

**lach470** · 07-27-2010, 12:24 PM

Very nice buckle Bill! My example is the one piece stamped version! Looks like you got yourself a nice one! Congrats!

Rob

**Buckle1** · 07-27-2010, 04:06 PM

David, Ben, Rob,

Thanks for the kind words on this buckle. I almost passed on this buckle when I first saw it but the price was very reasonable and I believed it to be a good one after a second look. This is the first of it's kind I have ever seen and as you say and Reed said it is a very early one. I have two other one piece brass ones w/tabs as well as a nickel silver-smooth body with gold finish and the same type of catch that is on the brass ones. I also have two smooth steel buckles one in gray and the 2nd in black paint. Will be happy to show these if your interested.

thanks again.

Regards,

Bill

**Kurt D** · 07-27-2010, 07:05 PM

by Buckle1

I have two other one piece brass ones w/tabs as well as a nickel silver-smooth body with gold finish and the same type of catch that is on the brass ones. I also have two smooth steel buckles one in gray and the 2nd in black paint. Will be happy to show these if your interested.

Yes, please do!!

Best regards, Kurt

**Guido** · 07-27-2010, 07:59 PM

It is absolutely not my intention to be the bogeyman again, but I fear some critical questions are necessary!

Bill, your two piece buckle is very unusual. I saw it also when it was advertised for sale and had to think over it a for long time. The box is surely an original piece, perhaps from a former Imperial buckle. The roundel itself looks also quite genuine. The type is exactly the same we know so well from Reichsmarine buckles made by Schmöle. By the way, I know only brass Reichsmarine buckles by Schmöle. But is there perhaps a chance that box and roundel were not original together all the time? Could the buckle be perhaps a piece of handicraft work?
It is also hard to imagine for me that the Reichsmarine has introduced a two piece buckle for service. We know all that two piece military buckles were rejected since 1915/ 1916.

Bill, perhaps I am little bit to nervous in this matter, but isn't it better to have a discussion instaed of a general adulation?

Best regards,
Guido