Thoughts of Verwundetenabzeichen.

**tempelhof** · 09-06-2012, 02:41 PM

Hello Brett...

I looked at the original badge here earlier, for some reason, with no thought of Weidmann or Deschler badges. Which is odd because I own examples of this type myself.
Maybe I need to start looking at them again! I have neglected them because for the past couple of years I've been hunting down EK1s.

As to the question of whether a particular badge of this design is Deschler, Weidmann, or any other maker... I don't think any of us know. And we may never know for sure.
The badge in question, is an example of what we call a Deschler or Weidmann-type as you and I know.

I still would like to see a better picture of it so that I can feel good about reversing my opinion on this badge.

I should also make the comment that the four lines being in the left-most crossguard as a problem was intended to apply to "30"-marked Hauptmuenzamt badges. on rereading my previous post, it sounds like i was applying this to the SWB as well and I did not mean to do that because in other badges, this trait does exist in good examples.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 09-06-2012 02:41 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**rbminis** · 09-06-2012, 03:16 PM

I accept the hinge and pin as I do believe that I can see part of the notch in the backplate, but I still stand firm that the catch has been replaced.
An uncommon wide pin.

Ralph.

**tempelhof** · 09-06-2012, 03:37 PM

yes, i don't know if i was clear there... the catch is not original to the badge. i agree with you.

**ackb** · 09-06-2012, 06:02 PM

I still would like to see a better picture of it so that I can feel good about reversing my opinion on this badge.

Unfortunately I don’t have these badges in hands but I will try to make the seller take a couple of new photos of it.

Cheers
Alex

**tempelhof** · 09-06-2012, 06:05 PM

yes, sorry to suddenly being in the position of having to reconsider my original call, but Brett has me thinking along lines I curiously neglected before. believe me, i know better. i just did not think about Wiedmann/Deschler. i just call these things "Deschler types", but having been reminded, i feel that SWB now has a good chance.

but as also pointed out, the catch is not original Deschler type or not.

he should send you a good close up of the front, straight on and not angled and two of the back: a close up of the catch and a picture of the back with the pin up and out of the way so we can see the base plate of the hinge better.

**Woolgar** · 09-06-2012, 07:46 PM

I am the same as Tempelhoh. After Bretts post and further research I am doing a U-Turn on the silver.

A good Deschler

Nick

**warRelic** · 09-09-2012, 03:55 AM

All the pins are different !

The gold one is my best guess.

**Datrus** · 09-09-2012, 04:18 AM

by Brett

Hello Tempelhof
I would say that the catch only has been replaced on this badge & that the solder covers the original mounting plate. These badges seem
to come with a variety of differing hardware & I wonder whether the design was used only by Deschler/Weidmann, or whether there were
other manufacturers using the same design as well. I bought the badge in the following link & from memory it was dug up in Bryansk, Russia.
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/orders...silver-180423/

Regards
Brett

That is true Brett. It was dug up in Bryansk by a friend of mine

**Brett** · 09-09-2012, 04:39 AM

Hello warRelic
As stated earlier in this thread the gold badge is no good! The hardware is way off the mark.
It is a fake masquerading as a Hauptmunzamt 30.

Regards
Brett

**tempelhof** · 09-09-2012, 04:49 AM

i have no change of heart on the Gold. it's a bad one.

but the silver VWA i am comfortable with now. and i concur with comment as to the catch being replaced.

just a brain block on my part not remember a type of badge i myself own!

good thread!

thanks to the poster of these badges and commentators.

sorry to change calls, but when a member shows you the truth, as Brett has done for me here, you have to rethink.