Help required, Panzerkampfabzeichen in Bronze

[Ben Evans]

Gents

Not a badge man but thinking of buying one. This should be ok but as with everything if I do not know I check

Opinion please

Many thanks

[ryuuk]

Original Frank & Reif.

[Ben Evans]

Many thanks

[MAP]

Ryuuk is of course correct. If it matters it is a later war Type 4.2.3 with typical die flaw on the top left Wreath. It is the most commonly seen variant and is the last one made by F&R.

Nice pick up Ben! Congrats!

[Rakkasan187]

MAP,

Forgive my ignorance but I see a lot of references to badges and decorations with a number sequence with them. In this case 4.2.3?? Where is this information and numbering system, in a reference book??

Thanks

Smitty

[MAP]

MAP,

Forgive my ignorance but I see a lot of references to badges and decorations with a number sequence with them. In this case 4.2.3?? Where is this information and numbering system, in a reference book??

Thanks

Smitty

Yes, it is in Philippe DeBocks book (The German Panzer Assault Badge of WWII). In and of itself it means nothing. Just something to help categorize a type/variation and typically helps "Variant Type Collectors". It can get confusing especially when different authors produce their own tables or when new variations are found that are not in the reference books (which we all know are static)

In this case:
4 is for the Design Type (you could have many makers using similar dies, in the case of Design Type 4, they were F&R, Mayer, and "Unknown 7 wheel design")
2 is for being the 2nd identified maker (the others being noted above)
3 is for being the 3rd variant of this maker

Hope this helps

[Ben Evans]

Ryuuk is of course correct. If it matters it is a later war Type 4.2.3 with typical die flaw on the top left Wreath. It is the most commonly seen variant and is the last one made by F&R.

Nice pick up Ben! Congrats!

Not got it yet, making sure its ok lol

[MAP]

Would love it see more photos if/when you get it. This is a great looking example.

[rbminis]

Here is a mid maker's mark example with the same die flaw that Michael mentions.
This example came directly from my father, after he passed.
Ralph.

[MAP]

I can see that someone carved their initials W.I. but still wondering what is between (below) these two letters. A scratch or another letter?