PAB Bronze or Brass Cut-Out ??

[tony75]

Hi
what are your thoughts on this PAB im still learning these
thank you for your time and help
Tony

[Adrian]

This one would be a fake Tony. Panzerkampfabzeichen did not have a wreath like this where the outer edge followed the contours of the oak leaves. The oak leaves on originals are contained within a border and the edges are smooth.
Try a search and see what I mean.

[Anubis]

I disagree with Adrian here, in my opinion its a totally fine and nice early tombak Deumer.

[Adrian]

I'll bow to your better knowledge on these János and my apologies if I'm wrong.

Can you post any similar badges? I've never seen one with the outer edge cut out like this before.

[Anubis]

Hello Adrian,

here is another Deumer. I dont have a picture from a cut out wreath example, but these are not factory made, very rare variants.

[Adrian]

Hmm. Thanks for posting the above János, the details do seem to match.

I was looking at the edge of Tony's badge and at first I thought it might be a vet modification but I also noted the turned edges of the leaves which led me to think it was a production piece and made by machine, not an individual with a file.

[tony75]

Hi
thank you so much for the help and info very interesting
Tony