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02-16-2016 09:43 PM
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'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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I would agree with Ned. I think there's a small "W" where it should be. Stewy
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Stewy S
I would agree with Ned. I think there's a small "W" where it should be. Stewy
Looking at it again, I think you may well be right Hawkeye.....
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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Thanks mate. With a bit of luck we may get some better pics. But as you & i know & appreciate Ned it's a new member posting. So it's all a learning curve & we've all been there.... As long as he doesn't ask a value, I've got all the time in the world. Stewy
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Sorry to be a pain, any chance of a pic with the pin up out of the way? That would be a great help. Stewy
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It looks O.K. to me. It's an early type 1.2.2 solid tombak example that's probably been ground dug. There is a fake version of this type, but I'm not seeing the flaws that are seen on that copy. All the same, I'm surprised the small "w" isn't visible at all, but that may be for the reasons I mentioned previously.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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Ned, i was thinking that, it's the only reason to see "verdi" on what is normally a zinc award. It's really the only possible answer. Ground dug, I doubt. More of a barn find, if you know what I mean or badly stored. Obverse would've suffered more if it were G/dug. Ned, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't there unmarked examples known? Stewy
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Stewy S
Ned, i was thinking that, it's the only reason to see "verdi" on what is normally a zinc award. It's really the only possible answer. Ground dug, I doubt. More of a barn find, if you know what I mean or badly stored. Obverse would've suffered more if it were G/dug. Ned, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't there unmarked examples known? Stewy
Hi Stewy,
The Wurster badge here is the only known solid tombak PAB made. The later solid zinc version (type 1.2.4) to which you refer is actually produced using a different die. A second solid version was struck from the type 3 die that was used for zinc production, but these are extremely rare as only a few were presumed made. The two types can easily be differentiated by looking at the the position of the oakleaf veins in one of the bottom right leaves of the wreath. As for it's condition, I'll stick with ground dug, after all the badge is non ferrous and doesn't crumble away as zinc does, but I guess the circumstances of it's finding could be different.
As far as being found unmarked, I've never seen one of either type maker marks being missing from any PAB by this maker, although I have seen some with the small "w" double marked, once on the top left, and again above the catch, but these are very rare. Also a light strike can make for a very weak mark, and excess solder can also hide it. Hope this helps.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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