Panzerkampfabzeichen Silver Maker R.S.

**War Medals** · 05-12-2018, 07:27 PM

Hello to all, back from a show today and was wondering if I could get some opinions on this badge I purchased. The condition to me (no expert) appears excellent. I compared the badge to the postings on this web site and just no sure about the maker's mark. Hardware look good. Thanks again

John

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 05-12-2018 07:27 PM

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**rbminis** · 05-12-2018, 08:15 PM

Looks like a good, thin maker marked, example John.
I would say bronze with none of the finish left.
Ralph.

**War Medals** · 05-12-2018, 11:20 PM

Hi Ralph, thank you for your fast response. I have seen many of the thicker R.S., so I questioned it. Also it is a maker that people say has fakes. Would you have an idea to when it was made?

Yours Truly
John

**Migobeego** · 05-13-2018, 03:07 AM

It could well be a late war production.

Regards,
MG.

**War Medals** · 08-08-2018, 04:06 PM

Hi Ralph, you posted a response, that you felt ok with this PAB. I was wondering if you had any pics in your data base of it. I have spend some time to increase my basic knowledge of these badges. I have searched this boards posts and could not find a match. What I learned is that the R.S. badges with the larger maker marks have two flaws that confirm there originality. The 7 on the eagle wing and the left side added material between the wing and the swastika. I don't see these flaws on this particular badge. I am wondering if these flaws were corrected or I have a fake badge. I can always try to return the badge if fake. Thanks for any info you can give me.

Regards
John

**raz** · 08-08-2018, 05:10 PM

Hi John, does it have the smile die flaw on the reverse from 4 to 8 o'clock ? A good photo of the eagle would help as would one of the complete reverse and hardware . From the pic's you show I believe I see the 7 flaw but a better picture would help . Maker mark looks ok for the 5.1.3. R.S. badge comparing to Debock's book .
Raz

**War Medals** · 08-08-2018, 05:49 PM

Hi Raz, posted some additional pics that will give more info on badge. A little better quality.

John

**raz** · 08-08-2018, 06:35 PM

The catch should be the ? type on this late of award, no pictures of hinge, although , 5.1.1. and 5.1.2. had the round wire catch so ( could be using old stock ? ) 59.90mm H x 41.91mm w x 31.75gr weight in zinc . The flaws are visible and Ralph knows his PAB's very well .
Raz

**War Medals** · 08-08-2018, 07:40 PM

Badge measures 59.91 mm H x42.15 mm W. I don't have a digital scale, so no weight. I agree, Ralph does know his PAB's, he always posts excellent examples. I am always on the lookout for reference books on these badges but either very expensive or hard to find. I added some additional pics of hinge. Thanks for the info.

John