Unknown maker pab bronze ?

**rory** · 01-20-2015, 09:43 PM

Just got this in a trade can't match the pin set up, only close one is unknown maker. Thanks

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-20-2015 09:43 PM

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**rory** · 01-20-2015, 09:53 PM

**rbminis** · 01-20-2015, 10:25 PM

With this hardware, this one is going to be either a Steinhauer & Lück, or a Juncker. Better photos would help.
Ralph.

**rory** · 01-20-2015, 10:41 PM

Ralph yes looked at the s&l and Junker but this badge has a round hook catch ? Can't see any other examples like that.

Sorry about pics taken with an iphone.

Thanks

**rbminis** · 01-20-2015, 11:04 PM

I will check my references when I get home.
Ralph.

**big ned** · 01-21-2015, 01:47 AM

Hi Rory,

You need to take it back, it's a fake 'Juncker set up' solid zincer by an unknown maker. There were 2 types, 'A' and 'B' that had slight differences in the design of the headlights, co ax MG and details around the eagles legs. This one is trying to copy the 'A' type. Note the huge 'blobs' on the end of the track links, that's no good; neither is the eagle plus a few other differences. On the reverse, the badge should be lightly dished, the one above is not, the catch should be flat wire but it's not, it's round wire as you mentioned as a concern and the pin is wrong.

Here's a couple of poor photo's of the same fake, but you get the idea.

And here's what it should look like if it were a genuine type 'A'.

Regards, Ned.

**rbminis** · 01-21-2015, 03:58 AM

I agree with Ned.

Ralph.

**rory** · 01-21-2015, 08:04 AM

Thanks Ned, yes in had I thought it looked sharp and detailed in places then other bits were just crappy like the end of the barrel had no detail at all. Hadn't any high hopes for this one. Thanks again