German patches. Real? WW2? Please educate me

**RagTagCircus** · 01-28-2015, 02:45 PM

Hello all

I got these two patches early during my collection years but never really learned if they were real or not. I simply know one is the German eagle with swastika and the other is the Gebirsjager insignia. Thus, any insight you can give me on these would be very welcome. First up is the Gebirsjager patch

NOTE: This is my very first post on this forum and as I didn't find an introduction subforum here goes; I am a Belgian WW2 collector (20 years old) and my main interest is the US 83rd Infantry Division and WW2 US patches. I was directed through this forum by a member on USMF since I was searching for a forum that could teach me about my non-US (German) part of my collection. Hopefully this is the right place

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-28-2015 02:45 PM

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**RagTagCircus** · 01-28-2015, 02:46 PM

Second is the Eagle patch. Any help on these is very much appreciated

**Sarge** · 01-29-2015, 03:57 AM

We'll see what everyone else thinks, but I don't like either one of them.
I've never seen a gebirgs patch with all those colors on the back.
I don't like the looks of the SS eagle either.
Sarge

**JPhilip** · 01-29-2015, 10:08 PM

Hello,
I cant comment on WSS eagle, not my field, but the embroidered edelweiss looks OK to me.
and welcome to the forum
Thanks

**RagTagCircus** · 01-30-2015, 09:44 AM

The Gebirgsjager patch actually came with this devotional picture.
Off course I don't think it's the same as the picture but it would be nice if it's good since the seller threw it in to sweeten the deal.
Another question I have although after your answers: how do you see that the eagle is an SS eagle? Any clues in shape or details?
I'll try to get a scan of that later today as that would bring out beter detail and colors and maybe help in properly determining it's good or not. (since these pictures were taken with my phone)

**John Brandon** · 01-30-2015, 10:53 AM

The eagle has NOT landed......Fake I'm afraid, looks more like a penguin head

**Silberkreuz** · 01-30-2015, 01:04 PM

Hi Ragtag,
Welcome to the forum, yes agree with Sarge that the colouring on rear of the Edelweiss is strange.
Below are a few pics of coloured patches and the colour does not seemed to have run on these.

German patches. Real? WW2? Please educate me

**RagTagCircus** · 01-30-2015, 10:46 PM

So the eagle is a fake but there doesn't seem to be a general agreement on the Gebirgsjager which might also mean it isn't good?
Hope someone can chime in with a definitive answer

**another ant** · 01-31-2015, 06:54 AM

has put it under a uv light?
is not definitive but, it is a first step

**RagTagCircus** · 01-31-2015, 11:06 PM

Haven't put it under blacklight yet, will do as soon as I get one.
As this turns out to be a bit of a let down, do these hold any value?
And what would be the value on the Gebirgs if it's good?