Help with Kriegsmarine trade patch identification

[ObKrieger]

Hi guys,

I got this for Christmas this year. To me, it looks like some sort of scribe trade patch. I really don't know much about these. Is it even original?

Thanks,
Mo

[zwerge]

HI, it`s a clerical NCO career sleeve insignia.....Pete.

[ObKrieger]

Thanks Pete!

[zwerge]

I found it comes in at least two other grades too,one is like yours with one stripe and the other for EM with only the crossed quill pens.

[ObKrieger]

So there were three seperate versions for officers, NCO's, and enlistedmen?

[zwerge]

No,the one with the one stripe under the anchor just appears to be a higher senior NCO grade,they also come in blue on white for the white uniform.

[HPL2008]

So there were three seperate versions for officers, NCO's, and enlistedmen?

Basically, it breaks down like this:

• Seamen below Petty Officer rank [Mannschaften, i.e. those up to and including Oberstabsgefreiter] wore their specialty insignia in the form of circular cloth badges on the left upper arm (above their rank chevrons).
• Junior Petty Officers [Unteroffiziere ohne Portepee, i.e. the Maate and Obermaate] wore combined specialty- and rank insignia in the form of oval cloth badges on the left upper arm. Their design always included an anchor (in a few cases, two crossed anchors). The Obermaat ranks were identified by a chevron below the device.
• Senior Petty Officers [Unteroffiziere mit Portepee] wore their specialty insignia in the form of metal devices on their shoulder boards.
• Commissioned Officers wore their specialty insignia in embroidered form above the sleeve braid or as metal devices on their shoulder boards/epaulets (depending on the type of uniform and order of dress worn).

(All this applies to the white and blue uniforms; the field grey and tropical uniforms are another matter.)

What you have here is the combined specialty- and rank insigne for a Schreibersmaat. A Schreiberobermaat would have worn the same badge with an additional chevron below the anchor-and-quills device.

This version with a gilt metal device (it has lost its gilt finish) on a dark blue badgecloth patch was for wear on the dress jacket and pea-coat. A golden-yellow machine embroidered version on blue cloth was worn on the blue shirt and a blue machine embroidered version on a white washable patch was for wear on the white shirt and the white work uniform.

[ObKrieger]

Thank you Andreas!