Wehrmacht Freiwillige Schulterklappen?

[johanis1860]

Hello.
This pair is for sale,I will bid on it,the auction ends in 11 hours.
The are good or bad?.
Please,help me to make the right decision.
Thanks,every opinion and comment is welcome.
Regards,Jannis.

[johanis1860]

I found out that the Schulterklappen are for a Rottenführer der Flieger-HJ.
Please,can anyone confirm this?
Thanks.
P,S I have won the auction.

[Wilhelm Saris]

If this is the correct color, as shown, they are not Flieger-HJ.
But what they are, I cannot tell…. As far as I can see they are
not even Flakhelfer or so!

[HPL2008]

What Wim said. Flieger-HJ and HJ Flakhelfer had light blue piping. This appears to be plain grey (not even Luftwaffe blue-grey).

[johanis1860]

First thank you, for your opinion and comment.
The are sellers photos.
You're right, the color on it photo looks more like gray.
After my search on the web, there were two possibilities, either
Wehrmacht-SS volunteers or HJ.
I belive HJ, but I was not sure.
So here in the forum asked for help.

[johanis1860]

I think this time I found the right one.
The shoulder boards are a HJ-Luftwaffeoberhelfer.
I add two links, showing the corresponding shoulder boards.
HJ Luftwaffeoberhelfer shoulder straps.- NSDAP & non-Combat
HJ-LuftwaffenHelfer uniform
Thanks to all for your help.