HJ Kife blue diamond

[belgrano]

Dear Friends, in my opinon the blue diamond, not exist during the time of the Third Reich, so this knife, it always according to my opinon, is a fake. The blade, I think it is not original. you who think. Thanks in advance

[matty01]

Sorry, its a repro..

May I ask why you have so much questionable fake stuff at the moment?

Are you testing the water to see if you can palm it off?

If not, Change of supplier I say.

[youthcollector1]

The pictures aren't close enough to deem this a reproduction in my opinion. Quite possible it's a original with a fantasy blue diamond added after the original fell out.

Add:

Yes, the lip on the scabbard and the word Germany are a dead give away.

But that's just the scabbard. Each piece, IMO, should be judged on its own merit. Just because the scabbard is post-war doesn't mean the knife is too. A collector could've brought these two items together due to the knife no longer retained its original scabbard. Such is often the case.
That said, any colored HJ diamond such as blue, orange, pink, etc. is incorrect and completely fantasy as we all know, but it too could be a replacement done by a collector. The photos are from a far, and I'm on my phone so I can't see much detail, but I will say that although rare, the "Bowie" style knife was produced for the Hj dagger. In fact, I have one.
Admittedly, the knife is probably a reproduction, but better safe than sorry I'd say.

[matty01]

No chance, look at the lip on the scabbard and the blade shape.

[Mac 66]

Richard Abr. Herder, Made in Germany Rostfrei, so post war knife with a bogus blue diamond




Regards Mac 66.

[Larry C]

Blue is not a National Socialist Color.....and has no part in the Doctrine of the party or the HJ movement.

Blue for Boys and Pink for Girls?.....sorry not in this case

[Feuerbach]

Yes, the lip on the scabbard and the word Germany are a dead give away.

[maximus71]

All has been said.

[gerrit]

Blue is the underwater division of the HJ, its so to say the Marine division without the subs
Every one knows this!!

How horrible can a fake be?
I dont know why this knife has even been posted here!
So much nice reference material on this Forum, its even easy for a almost blind man to compare this bogus knife with the real thing here.

Do a bit of research before posting here please!
Lots of people take the effort and time to post their knives here with good detailed shots, so knives like this shouldnt even be questioned here.

Ger

[youthcollector1]

Blue is the underwater division of the HJ, its so to say the Marine division without the subs
Every one knows this!!

How horrible can a fake be?
I dont know why this knife has even been posted here!
So much nice reference material on this Forum, its even easy for a almost blind man to compare this bogus knife with the real thing here.

Do a bit of research before posting here please!
Lots of people take the effort and time to post their knives here with good detailed shots, so knives like this shouldnt even be questioned here.
Ger

What's eating you buddy?!? It's funny, we say post everything no matter what, but become upset when such is done!! We are all at different levels as well some have had much longer to view references here, and learn how to do so. Not everyone can use a computer properly. :/ (This is not a attack at you, Ger! I completely understand your point. Just not use to seeing you post comments such as the one above.)
As for the dagger, now that I've viewed this on my work computer and not just my phone I can see that the markers mark among other things are inaccurate; sorry for any false hope. That said, I still believe the blue diamond was not originally apart of this dagger and was added as a replacement by a dealer or collector. I would bet better photographs would even prove this.