Hi, looks ok to me but wait for Mac66 to cast his expert eye
Not all Motto blades have makers mark.
Have a read of this :
Lakesidetrader | German Daggers & Military Collectables
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
Hi Woolgar,
Thanks so much for your fast reply!
That's the article I read that indicated that a motto blade should have a makers mark.
"BAD
RZM designation on the obverse, (normally found to reverse) riccasso
Casting seams on the hilt
Poorly fit grip plates
New smelling leather
Alloy non-magnetic scabbards
Minty factory fresh
Banged up poorly formed rivets
"Germany" anywhere on the knife or scabbard
Motto with no makers name
Motto with RZM Blades dated 1939 and later
Solid red on the diamonds"
Yes you are correct . I was reading 'There may or may not be an RZM designation on the blade.' Apologies.
The maker mark is on the opposite side of the motto, has it worn away do you think, as the Motto is very faded
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
Possibly. The opposite side of the blade has been personalised with "H.Hilger"
I'll email the dealer and ask. Could it be possible that the blade was etched post 1938 with the motto?
but if so it should have a RZM designation.
I'm a little confused!
Ninelives, i,m pretty sure this hj knife was an RZM stamped blade with no makers stamp/logo with motto, maybe it was M7/51 For maker Anton Wingen Jr ?
motto looks ok but the blade has been heavily buffed & sharpened with a broken rear griplate & missing leather scabbard hanger, i would hold out for another complete better conditioned knife that you would be much happier in the long run.
Regards Mac 66.
Thanks so much guys. I think you're right. I might just hold out for a more complete blade
I would say it is an original. Whats it going for? If you're not getting it, please direct the forum members where to find it .
Thanks!
~Dean
It's going for $520, from a military store in Perth Australia.
If you're interested let me know and I'll give you the stores details
Cheers
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