1st model Luftwaffe Dagger - makers mark?

[Chris76]

I'm afraid I don't know if that is aluminium.

[Chris76]

looks ok but the scabbard cover is strange should be blue in colour.

This one seems more black than blue, but it might be the pics.

https://www.weitze.net/detail/25/Luf...6__134225.html

[rbminis]

I'm afraid I don't know if that is aluminium.

Try a magnet.
Ralph.

[thekees]

it should be blue, like the handle. I gusess the scabbard has been chemically cleaned and the blue wash is gone.

[Nordland14]

Producer is maybe WMW or F.W. Holler? - according to dagger grip.

It looks like part dagger, and disastrous restored also.
Scabbard material (plated metal) is in worse shape and it is different material, unlike crossguard, and pommel. (polished aluminum?)
On the handle, missing two wires, both thinner.
In the end, it seems that the leather parts coated with wax for shoes.
Too many flaws for my taste.

My advice - save your money and buy a proper 1. Luftwaffe dagger.
Like this one:
(Dagger and photo are is not my property)

Nordland

[Chris76]

Producer is maybe WMW or F.W. Holler? - according to dagger grip.

It looks like part dagger, and disastrous restored also.
Scabbard material (plated metal) is in worse shape and it is different material, unlike crossguard, and pommel. (polished aluminum?)
On the handle, missing two wires, both thinner.
In the end, it seems that the leather parts coated with wax for shoes.
Too many flaws for my taste.

My advice - save your money and buy a proper 1. Luftwaffe dagger.
Like this one:
(Dagger and photo are is not my property)

Nordland

The scabbard isn't very good. You are right about that, but the dagger itself is in very good condition in my opinion. And the price is always relevant. This dagger is cheaper than many in worse shape.

[Chris76]

Please give me your thoughts when it comes to price for this dagger. I would say about 600-700 euro.

[thekees]

Thats waht they do in a good condition, up to more when not cleaned or messed with, the dagger on your pictures look like a alumnium dagger in metal (iron or nickel) scabbard fittings. The plating, and therefore it wont be aluminium (no plating on al daggers) is in a unrestorable condtion, and the blue has ben cleaned of the leather. You wil find good or better daggers easy enough. in the past i had about 20 of them and about 30 LW swords. but, its not a fake, and for a low price (250 USd or less) not to bad.

[Chris76]

Thats waht they do in a good condition, up to more when not cleaned or messed with, the dagger on your pictures look like a alumnium dagger in metal (iron or nickel) scabbard fittings. The plating, and therefore it wont be aluminium (no plating on al daggers) is in a unrestorable condtion, and the blue has ben cleaned of the leather. You wil find good or better daggers easy enough. in the past i had about 20 of them and about 30 Luftwaffe swords. but, its not a fake, and for a low price (250 USd or less) not to bad.

Are you talking about prices in USA? The prices in Germany seem to be much higher.
I refer to MB, Weitze, Scholz, Beck....

[thekees]

Yes prices in th e Us are much better for daggers etc.