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Article about: Hi all, I would like to ask you for help with luftwaffe dress bayonet with etching. I would like to buy this one but I do not know how much I could offer if it is original. Thanks, Mike

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    Hi all,
    I would like to ask you for help with luftwaffe dress bayonet with etching. I would like to buy this one but I do not know how much I could offer if it is original.
    Thanks, Mike
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    I would say it is original.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Quote by Adrian Stevenson View Post
    I would say it is original.

    Cheers, Ade.
    It looks OK to me as well. FP

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    I do not like it.
    Bad to the bone.
    Someone is perched a new blade to the body bayonets.
    Body bayonets body is not E-pack.
    Rivets on the handle are all new, blade is not.
    It's not possible.
    If you do not own, skip it.

    Regards
    Vedran

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    It looks okay to me to. Probably belonged to a WWI veteran judging from the inscription and the image of a biplane. That's what I love about these etched bayonets, they tell you a little about the original owner.

    I'm not sure how one can surmise that the rivets are new, especially with these photos.

    Corey

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    Corrosion first assume rivets, due to sweat, and lower nickel.
    On the body of bayonets nickel is waste, the rivet the whole.
    This is not possible, the rivets it should be corroded.
    Also, the bayonet scabbard is in better condition, than the blade.
    It should be the other way around.
    It is well known, there are very good fakes E.pack etching, made in the Czech Republic.
    A very bad combination, and someone again ruined a good dress bayonet, adding her new blade.

    Regards
    Vedran

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    Quote by Rancid66 View Post
    I do not like it.
    Bad to the bone.
    Someone is perched a new blade to the body bayonets.
    Body bayonets body is not E-pack.
    Rivets on the handle are all new, blade is not.
    It's not possible.
    If you do not own, skip it.

    Regards
    Vedran
    I only clicked on the images (which are not the best), so I would say that some more images are in order to address the points made. I'm not a Pack specialist, and when I looked at Wayne Techt's book he seemed to suggest that Pack did do some limited subcontracting, but I don't know how far that extended. And in the images the rivets seemed to have both a bright and darker opposite side, which could be clarified with better pictures. And it of course could also very well be a Czech fake, which is why at this later date I'm glad that I left more of the focusing on collecting the dress models to some of my friends - because it's a lot harder to fake the issue bayonets (with perhaps the notable exception of the SG 42 from there, which are getting better, and command the higher prices that make it more cost effective for the fakers). FP

    PS: And this is the other aspect of making judgments from images on the Internet: Here is the image tilted upright of the one half way decent closeup - with special attention to the localized nature, depth, dark color and appearance of the pitting and wear marks. That is not easy to do.
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    Unfortunately yes, collecting E-pack etched bayonets, it has become very risky.
    On this bayonet handle personally reminds me to Holler dress bayonet.

    Regards
    Vedran

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    I Thought E Pack had a split nut bolt handle?
    Just wondering...
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    Eric, in most cases yes, but they had also rivets - pioner dress bayonet.

    Regards
    Vedran

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