Carin Göring's ring

**Adrian** · 03-03-2013, 11:12 PM

I've adjusted the thread title to clarify this is Carin Goering's ring not her husband's.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-03-2013 11:12 PM

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**Larry C** · 03-04-2013, 01:03 AM

by Horst

The real key here is "Provenance", everything else is speculation - Provenance reflecting that the ring came from Goring or was his property in one way or another.

Horst

by big ned

The examination of the photo shown here and any others and related letters/ documents or whatever, is needed as much as the examination of the ring IMO. Afterall, don't we agree that the ring is nothing as it stands alone, yet with corroborating evidence of a positive link to the nurse concerned it bears some POSSIBLE chance of being what it is mooted to be?

As far as the ring goes itself, who is to say it was bought by Goring? If it is an opal, then it is Carin Goring's birthstone and may have been owned by her since a young age, perhaps before she was even married to her first husband, never mind old Hermann her second one. We can go on forever saying this and that, but at the end of the day it needs careful examination by an expert to even hope it is of the correct period and a genuine piece from that time.

Then you may have a ring with some provenance IF you are to believe that it all came together, and that is something that will never be truly known unless photographic evidence of the woman in question wearing it, or a ledger, insurance document, diary or other such information is found to prove the link.

And that is in all probability unlikely....So best case scenario is IF what is already available here is shown to be genuine, then you still have to want to BELIEVE.

Regards, Ned.

I wholly support these statements above by Horst and Big Ned . A high profile artifact like this has to have more supportive evidence than just,,"It came from someones great grandmother" No disrespect to the poster,,but speculation does not bring it closer to authenticity neither.
A photo of Goring doesnt do it for me also. 2 posts only from the original poster saying equally the same thing?? It is wishful thinking on my part that I hope it is real,, but doubt creeps in quicker when there are more words than proof.

Regardless if there are no markings inside the ring ...post the photos anyway,, we might see something you may not or something maybe you dont want us to see. The same with the photo. No more words.... if you want our help since you came here.....then let us help you!

Regards Larry

**Doorborn** · 03-04-2013, 01:25 AM

I will post more info when I have wisited a jeweller and found a photo of Carin wearing the ring, think there is one at my moms place.

**CBH** · 03-04-2013, 01:41 AM

I hope you can find some photos , and understand the forum members mistrust . It is easy to say anything on the internet , and people often do ! And a piece such as this with historical value does make people question any story . But a photo is worth a thousand words . Hope you can find the proof we'd all love to see . I wish you luck .
Cheers Chris

**Doorborn** · 03-06-2013, 07:46 PM

found a letter

but no photo yet

**big ned** · 03-06-2013, 07:54 PM

by Doorborn

found a letter

but no photo yet

Looks interesting...Anyone here want to have a go translating it for a dunce like me?

Regards, Ned.

**Doorborn** · 03-06-2013, 07:57 PM

My german is crap but I think its about a photo he sent of carin to my grandmother but dont got that photo here, will post it in about 2 weeks

**HPL2008** · 03-06-2013, 08:53 PM

The letter translates as:

"HERMANN GÖRING
Hauptmann (ret.)
Member of the Reichstag

Berlin-Schöneberg, 26 January 1932
Badenschestr. 7

Dear nurse Maria,

unfortunately, it is only today that I find the time to send you the picture of my wife, as I had constantly been so very busy up until now.

I hope you are well and that we may occasionally meet again in Sweden. Today, too, I would like to once more thank you for your selfless care.

With cordial greetings

your

[signed: Hermann Göring]"

**Wagriff** · 03-06-2013, 10:12 PM

This ring is beginning to become quite interesting. From the various blurry but existing photo's of Carin Goring, it seems that she had a preference for large stone rings, and this one would definitely be of no exception. I'm still not liking the construction of the ring, but in pre-war Sweden, perhaps it was the style of the day?

**Doorborn** · 03-06-2013, 10:59 PM

Found some more stuff in the Göring map
Front and Back

From the Funeral

Photo of Thomas von Kantzow

And a letter from Thomas

Im a crappy reader so will not try to translate them.
But the first photo is from some capt. Müller
Letter is about telling thank you for the time in Stockhom, wishing a merry x-mus and that he has arrived to Carinhall.