identification and estimation (ring and armband)

[joel detry]

Hello, I would like to put on sale objects that I bought during an auction of memories to a soldier of the second armored division present in Germany in 1945. I would liked to have your opinion on two of these items, and if you could give me an estimate of the price at which I can sell them, that would be perfect. Thank you in advance, Joël (from France).

[Gwar]

Two different post's using the same photos... Usually we don't offer a valuation as we are not an appraisal servivce, but a collectors forum.. G

[joel detry]

Hello gwar,
I would like to offer these items for sale on this site. from this I do not see the harm in making the members of the site benefit from a fair price (determined by the people who will have the kindness and experience to inform me).
Two separate objects, belonging to two different sections of the forum. I wanted to get in touch with these two sections to benefit from each one’s specialized experiences. I apologize; I should have done a series of pictures by object.
Best regards, Joël

[Gwar]

Hello, If you have a go around of some militaria related shops on the net, you may find a answer as to which you seek, I cannot ascertain the validity of either item you have posted as original, the torn cuff title is in a state of almost undesirability save for its relationship to Third Reich memorabilia, Good luck.. G