Skull Ring Again

[Glenn66]

Heheh
Maybe it would be nice to start a thread for both of them together.

Yes I think I will do that when I have them both together!

[don_kihotis7]

Nice contrast

[don_kihotis7]

I have replaced the pictures in the first post with slightly bigger ones.

[don_kihotis7]

Ok got it and took some proper photos. I believe it's a fake since it has been painted to look that it has patina. You can see the marked picture with the arrow. Under the varnish it looks like it is made of aluminum.

[Wagriff]

I don't know,I'm almost inclined to still believe it's good. What looks like applied tarnish could be from some cleaning agent that's been used on it God only knows when. Some of the silver cleaners have a sealer in them to prevent future tarnishing, so this could be a leftover effect from an older polishing? Aluminum? Does it have any weight to it? Aluminum would be feather light. You could always have a jeweler do a test on it to see if it Is aluminum. I would ask the seller about it and see what all he has to say and if he does have a return policy just in case. If it Is a fake, it's a very well Made one, as it looks Good!

[Glenn66]

I think it looks OK too!

[odal]

Ouch!
Very hard to impossible to make a 100 % statement only basing on these pics.
The ring looks on the first view ok, but it has some problems too. This "varnish" Chris told, the nose/teeth area looks not exact like as on a proofed
period ring, the shoulder Areas are not symetrical and the material.
Should be silver. If ist no silver ist the "death" of this ring.
I would let make this little material test that tells the truth.
In the moment a very questionable one.
For comparing nose area:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/milit...imilar-002.jpg

And for the unsymetrical shoulders:

[odal]

Stopp!
Forget the silver test. While looking closer on the backside view i found what we need to find the truth.
Casting faults and pearls from casting - look at the red marked points.
No doubt a cast ring - a very well made cast fake/copy, but for sure a fake.
Period ones are die struck.

[Wagriff]

Ah! Excellent catch, Odal! Damn the fakers are getting good! Were there then No cast rings made in the period? They were All stamped?

[odal]

Most patterns are die struck. Was the easiest, fastes and cheapest method to produce such items in large quantities.
You only need a good die.
Today fakes usually don`t make expensive dies. Most they work with the lost wax casting.