Bouhler Ehrenfuehrer cuff title?

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Is he wearing an Ehrenfuehrer cuff title and this odd Affenschaukel in the year 1934?

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Viz: ex Mollo, vol 1

[Friedrich-Berthold]

upper: Bouhler and an Allgem SS officer ca. 1934.

lower: B. with back to camera, Nazi potentates and the interior of their caps.

[HPL2008]

Is he wearing an Ehrenfuehrer cuff title and this odd Affenschaukel in the year 1934?

Agreed on the Ehrenführer cuff title.

The lanyard, too, was a special pattern for honorary officers. If memory serves, it was officially referred to as Ehrenführergehänge.
It was eventually discontinued and replaced by the standard dress aiguillettes. (It should be in Wim Saris' book, but I am not at home right now.)

By the way, note the ADAC sports badge worn by the SS officer in the first photo in post # 3, which still looks the same today.

[Wilhelm Saris]

Bouhler is anyway wearing the special aiguillette for Ehrenführer (and the special cuffband).

With order Ch. II Nr. 1134/34 from the Oberste SA-Führer from January 27, 1934
an in-depth system was announced and published for the Ehrernführerkorps, as
well as Rangführer. According to regulations they were subordinated for the Dienstvorschrift
der SA.. The cuff band was ebony colored, 3.0 cm wide an at the both edges 2,0 mm wide golden
edges (for SA; for SS in silver). Simultaneously the special aiguillette came into being.



For those interested, the subject special aiguillette was described in-depth in the in 2007 published
book "Aiguillettes of the Third Reich". Here some pages about what was said for the SS and SA as well.



the black you see with b), as well as with the drawing is the black for the tunic. The braid was "open"!





the darker brown you see with the drawing is the color for the SA-tunic.

[d'alquen]

SA-order important for the SS

[Wilhelm Saris]

Thanks d'Alquen. I did not even remember the other thread,
even it was only a few years ago!

[Wilhelm Saris]

The NSKK also did have Ehrenführer. They were allowed to wear a special cuffband,
but there was no special aiguillette for them.

Here the NSKK-Ehrenführer as listed in Korpsbefehl Nr. 18 from Hühnlein from May 7, 1935.



I have no exact idea for those within the SS.
I have a list for those, assigned to a staff (17 persons - zugeteilt einem Stabe). Known is that various
anyway were SS-Ehrenführer. For example: Bouhler, von Ribbentrop. Further, ten persons were known
to be assigned to an SS-Standarte for Ehrendienstleistung. For example Schwarz, Forster, Loeper
and Weber.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

Thank you, dear colleagues. What with the frictions and discord of the last few months, this earlier thread slipped my old and weakened mind.
And, I must confess that I do not own Wim's book on aiguillettes, though I have admired it from afar. Mea culpa.
Thank you all very much. This kind of response is why you make this site such a fine locale, indeed.
I found the Bouhler image in the Almany heap, and did not recall it.

[d'alquen]

"Thanks d'Alquen. I did not even remember the other thread"
Wim,
I totally sympathize. The internet is an absolutely delicious tool that provides us with much we would otherwise miss or be unaware of. However, in my experience as a research tool it is less than ideal. For me paper and simple filing system provide real information and data far more quickly and easily than endless search engine forays through a kaleidoscope of internet images and threads that disappear in the rear view mirror of memory.
Seeing the photo you posted a few days ago of your old fashioned files, (which I enjoyed incidentally), prompts me to show a portion of my own similarly outdated shelves.
d'Alquen