Closed-Collar Feldgrau A-SS Uniform

[vady]

good f-b -

I'll try and contribute as oft I can. it's just I fall upon these "creatures' comforts" so seldom that my shows-n-tell are rare as, well, real tuxedo badges. (tho I not long ago managed to winkle out an authentic 'pmd postfrei' ss nco dachau degen, viewable on another forum here. admittedly, non-foetid but a handsome object anyhow ....)

meanwhile, I lurk and learn; pleasantly so. weidsmannsheil!

[Friedrich-Berthold]

good f-b -

I'll try and contribute as oft I can. it's just I fall upon these "creatures' comforts" so seldom that my shows-n-tell are rare as, well, real tuxedo badges. (tho I not long ago managed to winkle out an authentic 'pmd postfrei' ss nco dachau degen, viewable on another forum here. admittedly, non-foetid but a handsome object anyhow ....)

meanwhile, I lurk and learn; pleasantly so. weidsmannsheil!

Gut so. My best to you, FB

[Bochmann]

FB Many thanks for the reply with the Alpenland image.

I was not aware that the Allgemene SS had such a supporting role during wartime and assumed that their duties were more ceremonial and less "hands on" but this now seems to be totally wrong.

There also seems to have been a more "fluid" relationship between the different branches of the organisation than I had thought, so I will have to revise my thinking here and look at this situation anew.

[Friedrich-Berthold]

FB Many thanks for the reply with the Alpenland image.

I was not aware that the Allgemene SS had such a supporting role during wartime and assumed that their duties were more ceremonial and less "hands on" but this now seems to be totally wrong.

There also seems to have been a more "fluid" relationship between the different branches of the organisation than I had thought, so I will have to revise my thinking here and look at this situation anew.

I make this comment based on the photograph album of a Waffen SS man in the hands of a friend in Vienna, as well as this work on Maehrisch Iglau, which is more or less a chronology of the town and its NSDAP, SS, SA and so forth units.

[stonemint]

This is an interesting Hochzeit photograph. Note that he appears to be wearing the piped Allgemeine pants with a (very) shortened tunic:

[Bochmann]

That is a superb photo and one which contradicts all of the dress regulations that were in place at the time.
Nice to see also that the wearer has only non combat awards.

[HPL2008]

A very good photo and thanks for sharing!

From his awards (Potsdam Badge and Golden HJ Badge), he is clearly a former "veteran" Hitler Youth member who has moved on to the Waffen-SS.

For some reason, such shortened tunics/blouses were considered fashionable at the time, both with the SS and the Army. (Personally, I have always found this look decidedly odd.)

This mix of grey and black uniform items is sometimes seen in photographs. Mark C. Yerger's biography of Ernst August Krag has a group photo of 22 SS officer candidates at Bad Tölz together with one of their instructors, all wearing the pre-war grey field blouse with opened collars, white shirts, ties and the long, black, white-piped trousers.

[stonemint]

I agree, the shortened tunic look is very odd. I am told the reason that is was done was to give an illusion of height, in that the cuffs extend far below the hem. (The wear of high-peaked Sattelform visors was also for the same reason).

[silvercreek45]

I think the cufftitle is 1gerhard landmann, the honor title of 49 th Standarte, I lightened the picture and it pops out , the picture was photoshoped to darken out the cufftltle in my opinion[ATTACH=CONFIG]395501[/ATTACH]
I should say the original photo had the inscription blackened out.

[stonemint]

Allgemeine-SS gray open-collar tunic on the 'bay right now--pic is dated 1942--just noticed that he is also from the 49th Standarte, as is the Officer in post 29 above: