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10-21-2015 07:47 AM
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Hello, Yes, I see, DrCMH. So like other items in the TR, as the war went on, so did the quality of materials. So the hat in question, [original thread], can be identified as fake because of the lesser quality fabric is wrong for that period?
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KEVIN23
Hi, It appears to me, by looking at your photos FB, that the SS used a type of wool {textile} altogether different from the other branches of service in the TR. Seems most visors have a light pattern in the cloth, from what I see, this is not present in the SS visors.
FB has some great threads on the textiles used on SS visors and this sticky thread is a treasure trove of information...
Types Materials for SS Visor Hats
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Thanks for your help in an area Im trying to understand.
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KEVIN23
Hello, Yes, I see, DrCMH. So like other items in the TR, as the war went on, so did the quality of materials. So the hat in question, [original thread], can be identified as fake because of the lesser quality fabric is wrong for that period?
I agree with FB for many reasons regarding the original cap in question. The textile used is only one component of my assessment and I have seen some early caps made with this type of textile, or, I should say, a textile differing from the Melton wool. One must look at the whole picture in order to come up with a definitive answer regarding authenticity. I am, like FB, inclined to say "nein" on the cap. The textiles certainly did decline in time as did workmanship due to the loss of skilled labor to the war/war effort.
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KEVIN23
Hi, It appears to me, by looking at your photos FB, that the SS used a type of wool {textile} altogether different from the other branches of service in the TR. Seems most visors have a light pattern in the cloth, from what I see, this is not present in the SS visors.
No, the wool was used in other branches of uniformed organizations. The wool was black, of course, and in the early caps, i.e. prior to late 1935, was a melton wool, generally, of high quality. The first cap is of Trikotage of a kind found in many good fakes. The first cap also has lousy badges. It is otherwise close to an original.
But it is not an original, at least from the images. Dr. CMH is a very fine collector and has wonderful pictures.
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The Oberfuehrermuetze also had a better quality of wool than the average ca. 1938 SS officer's cap.
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A silly beginner question. But is the direction of the Trikot weave on the OP's hat a yellow flag. Right side of the skull (on the picture) has the weave in a 45 degree. Left side appears to have it at a vertical axis.
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A silly beginner question. But is the direction of the Trikot weave on the OP's hat a yellow flag. Right side of the skull (on the picture) has the weave in a 45 degree. Left side appears to have it at a vertical axis.
No.
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