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08-04-2012 09:54 PM
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
Interesting to note that the inclusion of wood pulp into the wool fibre mixes COULD actually be a preserving factor, there are certain types of wood that repel moth larvae and other insects, I dont know what comparisons you could make regarding condition of poor wool mixes versus synthetic material when it comes to degree of damage caused by insects but it would be very interesting if there were figures available if only by collections in private hands and personal observations
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
Not sure they were worried about insect repulsion at the time Dave!
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
Perhaps not intentionally Ben, needless to say it all depends on the type of wood pulp used which could account if some caps have a higher damage rate than others, it was a mere speculation, now i'm going to have my Horlicks and watch some Laurel and Hardy
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
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BenVK
Not sure they were worried about insect repulsion at the time Dave!
They did, indeed, and the moth proof black woolens were abandoned well before the outbreak of war.
Wool declined in quality steadily from the onset of the Four Year Plan in 1936, and recalled the experience of the '14-'18 war, but in greater extremity.
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
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BenVK
I understand where you're coming from 100%.
It doesn't "feel" right to me either.
Thank you gentlemen for your input in regards to the piping. BTW, the KZ visor I used own and pictured above had wool piping, not rayon. Just goes to show that it's quite difficult to identify different materials from looking at photos.
Thought you would recognize that cap! Quite true - it did have woolen piping. If you look closely, you will recognize an additional photo I included of a shoulderboard for an Obersturmfuhrer in the Infantry - sharing the same type of fabric in it's application of piping. There are also depictions of wool piping of differing quality, as well as some of the aforementioned types of piping in synthetic material - seemingly to become universally referred to as "rayon" here. With good quality photographs, most of the time the differences can be easily recognized . . . and reputedly by some [with a greater degree of experience?], even determined as being a rayon of pre or post WW2 manufacture.
One of troubling features for me about the cap in question - the two differing types of piping. Specifically, the type at the band, and the type at the top. How prominent was such treatment by capmakers of the time? Are there any other examples out there, of which have a combination of materials used for piping? Honestly, I do not know. Recognizing the differing types of material, my first thoughts were that someone [at what time?] paired two different caps together . . . but for lack of exeprience, I cannot say that such activity did not occur, and was not unordinary for the times. And yes, Derek's cap does share the same type of piping at the top . . . but does Derek's cap share the same type of piping at the band? Maybe this type of construction was not so uncommon with capmakers? The cap is certainly well constructed . . . but the combination of piping leaves me questionable. Maybe it was just another one of those "things" associated with the shortage of material at the time of it's construction?
Apart from the discussion about piping, I am eager to see more about the wool from which it is constructed - a lot of good details are coming forth . . .
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
Amazingly enough, the wool discussion is quite fascinating. Is the wood pulp the tiny 'chunks' of material that can be seen interspersed amongst the wool fibers?
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Re: Help me decide about this Feldmuetze Alter Art (crusher)
Dear N.C. Wyeth,
I'll get the hat out today and answer your question about the three pipings.
The use of 'wood' can be a bit confusing with regard to uniform materials. Rayon itself is made from wood, (cellulose), and was added in various amounts to wool for many different types of uniforms. These Rayon fibres are often the 'wood' that is referred to.
The U.S. Army issued the Richardson report in 1945 that analyzed the materials in camouflage uniforms. Michael Beaver used much of the material in his book on camouflage. I believe Borsorello in France reprinted the report. It showed up to 30 to 40% rayon in the wool in certain garments if I remember correctly.
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