nazi Lot real or memorez

[wood]

The armbands are fake/fantasy as well. The yellow SS was made but it was embroidered.
The bevo langemark is the upper one in your picture.
Pete

[Friedrich-Berthold]

For our readers a more detailed analysis by my senior mentor, David Delich, for your reflection.


"....The "BeVo" Langemarck is shown here first. Most references do not
shown the EM version exclusively of rayon or silk thread -- they show
the officer version with letters made like flatwire, but are really cellon.
They also have the officer-type borders similar to the alu. borders,
but are also cellon borders. The BeVo "Langemarck" is made
identically to all other BeVo bands. Note also that the genuine band
has much smaller, more delicate letters. And finally, the repro has
an all-white reverse except for where the letters shown through.
The genuine piece has a black/grey waffle pattern.
Second is the just-discussed officer-pattern Langemarck
title with the cellon letters and silk/rayon borders. It also has a
waffle pattern reverse.
I did not notice the "Wallonien" RZM title before as it was not
shown enlarged except for its reverse. No matter. It is
speculative that an RZM Wallonien band was ever made. The
jury is still out re: this piece. But, you can take my word for it,
this manufacture is not in the running. It's made very crudely,
just like the Hitlerjugend. The letters were never ultra-thin
and slanted like the one being considered.
Next is an "Afrikakorps" title. From what I see, the example
amid the grouping is genuine. The quickest way to determine
the genuineness of an "AK" title is to look at the shape of
the interior of the "O" in the word. If it is ROUND, the band
is real; if it is OVAL, it is not.
The 1936Spanien1939 title shown here, is the ONLY pattern I
am aware of. Crude versions of this abound, but since it was
issued in very limited numbers, specifically on the dress tunic,
it would appear very crude being worn in a "ragged condition"
as shown in the grouping. Its manufacture is s tated very
specifically in the text, which does not vary to include crude,
wool embroidered examples...."

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I would rely on David Delich with the surety of a sleep walker......

[hawkins]

For our readers a more detailed analysis by my senior mentor, David Delich, for your reflection.


"....The "BeVo" Langemarck is shown here first. Most references do not
shown the EM version exclusively of rayon or silk thread -- they show
the officer version with letters made like flatwire, but are really cellon.
They also have the officer-type borders similar to the alu. borders,
but are also cellon borders. The BeVo "Langemarck" is made
identically to all other BeVo bands. Note also that the genuine band
has much smaller, more delicate letters. And finally, the repro has
an all-white reverse except for where the letters shown through.
The genuine piece has a black/grey waffle pattern.
Second is the just-discussed officer-pattern Langemarck
title with the cellon letters and silk/rayon borders. It also has a
waffle pattern reverse.
I did not notice the "Wallonien" RZM title before as it was not
shown enlarged except for its reverse. No matter. It is
speculative that an RZM Wallonien band was ever made. The
jury is still out re: this piece. But, you can take my word for it,
this manufacture is not in the running. It's made very crudely,
just like the Hitlerjugend. The letters were never ultra-thin
and slanted like the one being considered.
Next is an "Afrikakorps" title. From what I see, the example
amid the grouping is genuine. The quickest way to determine
the genuineness of an "AK" title is to look at the shape of
the interior of the "O" in the word. If it is ROUND, the band
is real; if it is OVAL, it is not.
The 1936Spanien1939 title shown here, is the ONLY pattern I
am aware of. Crude versions of this abound, but since it was
issued in very limited numbers, specifically on the dress tunic,
it would appear very crude being worn in a "ragged condition"
as shown in the grouping. Its manufacture is s tated very
specifically in the text, which does not vary to include crude,
wool embroidered examples...."

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I would rely on David Delich with the surety of a sleep walker......

all so of note is if the o in africa is diamond shape looking from the back = fake

[Eric Zentner]

The Africa looks bad to me like most all of them so far from these pics.
Do yourself a favor and take better pics it may change my mind but I wish you luck.

.......https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/heer-...uff-title-804/.........
Eric

[Eric Zentner]

I am confused what looks good of any of it to anyone ?
I may be wrong and have been before so I would like to learn.
What if any of this group is good including ID disc?

Eric

[Wagriff]

Personally, the Afrika Corp is about the only one I Do like, but seeing as how it was included amongst the rest of the lot, I would reject it out of caution, in any case. I have no clue on the Dog Tag, but I'm sure that Matt L will.

[Eric Zentner]

I have never seen a DAK with that much white thread on the obverse before.
This should be get good.. Great Thread Gents!
But it all looks Bad to me.

Eric

[Wagriff]

It seems to me that this lot looks familiar, for some reason. I'm sure that I've seen it or one just like it elsewhere not too long ago...

[Adrian Stevenson]

As already stated, the only thing which is any good is the Afrikakorps cuff title.

Thanks to all and I would also like to thank Dave for his input. As "FB" has said, you can take his word to the Bank.

Cheers, Ade.

[Eric Zentner]

As already stated, the only thing which is any good is the Afrikakorps cuff title.

Thanks to all and I would also like to thank Dave for his input. As "FB" has said, you can take his word to the Bank.

Cheers, Ade.

This does not conform to your standerd in the DAK thread stickey should we add it ?

Eric