Need opinions on SS Button Die...

[dzyner]

Hi all,

This unique item crossed my path and I'm looking for some feedback on whether or not its genuine. It certainly looks like it could be period, but then again what do I know about period button dies? I can't find anything out there to compare to for authenticity or worth.

What do you guys think?







Thanks!
Dzyner

I collect WWII German Military Collectibles.

[stuka f]

I have seen that one popping up before on the net!
I have thousands of die's (military and civil, not tr related!!), all I can tell you is that thise is what a die looks like, just can't tell you if thise one is periode.
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[Wagriff]

As obsessed as the Germans were about marking Everything, I would think that any die like this would almost certainly have to have Some sort of markings and numbers on it.

[stuka f]

Marks could have been painted (that is how mine are marked...)and mostly when the die was made by some one else then the factory using them in production, they may bare a makers mark.
As I said , speaking from the experience I had!

[theduellist]

Could this be used to make buttons again and if so who could use this die to produce them?
Thanks for your reply.

[Walkwolf]

Fakers.........!


No idea if it's authentic or not. I imagine quite expensive though - be it
genuine, fake, or to make repro/fake buttons - anything with
'SS' on it usually is..........

[stuka f]

Very difficult to use without the contre-die (the die with the positive print). But it is possible.
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[Walkwolf]

Very difficult to use without the contre-die (the die with the positive print). But it is possible.
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Kris, is this die not for the 'front' of the button - the contre being the backside ?

[stuka f]

That is right Steve!
Thise is the one you will surely need.
If there were two (positive and negative), thise is the most important one.
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[Kompressor]

Hi there,
the counter die one needs is no problem at all and has no great value. It is made of brass. What many think is the important die, is in reality the master die (so-called Pfaff) which serves to make the die for pressing.

I have only seen flat dies which are put on the base of the press, this one is attached to the moving part of the press, I find this rare.

And yes, it should have a number, because the dies are stored in cabinets according to number. How could they find their dies for production if there wasn't any number?
I know this from the jewelry industry, and the process is the same.

If someone had the Pfaff (and any steel engraver can make them, no problem), he could produce many dies like this one and make a profit, by simply pressing it into mild steel and harden it.
Still, it has its worth for someone with a press, and it looks nice.

Mika