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05-26-2012, 01:18 PM
#291
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
by
Dean
I also see what looks like a panzer badge on the man with the crusher cap.
And an SA sports badge on the helmeted guy second from left.
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05-26-2012 01:18 PM
# ADS
Circuit advertisement
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05-26-2012, 03:24 PM
#292
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
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HPL2008
Please allow me to qoute my musings on the W-SS group photo as posted on the "New Photo Pick-Ups" thread:
We can tell from the uniform details that the photograph was taken at some point of time well into the war, yet all of the men - even the Spieß (sitting near the center in the second row), the other veteran senior NCOs and the officer - wear no or only very few awards and decorations, and those seen are of a very common and low-level nature.
Combat-/assault badges of any kind are completely absent, and even the few buttonhole ribbons might actually be for the KVK2 instead of the EK2. (It is often hard to tell the difference in black and white photos.)
All this leads me to believe that they are not from a combat unit, but serve in some kind of rear services/support role. They might belong to a supply column, vehicle depot, maintenance unit etc. The fact that they are posing in front of some trucks and that the group includes an army-trained Schirrmeister, i.e. a technical NCO in charge of motor vehicles (the third man from the right in the second sitting row) additionally supports that.
As for the cuff titles: It is impossible to positively identify them from this photograph, but I agree that they appear to be different ones, while most of the men wear none at all.
This group could be from a unit not (yet?) authorized a cuff title, while the men wearing cuff titles simply retain those of their previous assignments. (This had always been a common - and eventually officially authorized - practice.)
Another possible explantion is that this is a mixed group of men from different units, photographed during some kind of training course.
Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful analysis. Such sources of the past always contain great riddles and you aid our less experienced members to understand these sources.
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05-28-2012, 02:59 AM
#293
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
Thanks guys for the feedback! I believe you are pretty 'spot on' concerning this pic, HPL. Thanks for taking the time to reflect on the details.
~Dean
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05-28-2012, 08:03 AM
#294
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
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HPL2008
Please allow me to qoute my musings on the W-SS group photo as posted on the "New Photo Pick-Ups" thread:
We can tell from the uniform details that the photograph was taken at some point of time well into the war, yet all of the men - even the Spieß (sitting near the center in the second row), the other veteran senior NCOs and the officer - wear no or only very few awards and decorations, and those seen are of a very common and low-level nature.
Combat-/assault badges of any kind are completely absent, and even the few buttonhole ribbons might actually be for the KVK2 instead of the EK2. (It is often hard to tell the difference in black and white photos.)
All this leads me to believe that they are not from a combat unit, but serve in some kind of rear services/support role. They might belong to a supply column, vehicle depot, maintenance unit etc. The fact that they are posing in front of some trucks and that the group includes an army-trained Schirrmeister, i.e. a technical NCO in charge of motor vehicles (the third man from the right in the second sitting row) additionally supports that.
As for the cuff titles: It is impossible to positively identify them from this photograph, but I agree that they appear to be different ones, while most of the men wear none at all.
This group could be from a unit not (yet?) authorized a cuff title, while the men wearing cuff titles simply retain those of their previous assignments. (This had always been a common - and eventually officially authorized - practice.)
Another possible explantion is that this is a mixed group of men from different units, photographed during some kind of training course.
Many of them are not 'spring chickens' either.
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
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05-31-2012, 01:34 AM
#295
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05-31-2012, 08:05 AM
#296
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
Very nice Chris !
The wolfsangel rune of SS Freiwilligen-Panzer Grenadier Division “Nederland
Nick
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem
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05-31-2012, 01:49 PM
#297
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
by
Woolgar
Very nice Chris !
The wolfsangel rune of SS Freiwilligen-Panzer Grenadier Division “Nederland
Nick
Thanks Nick , alway liked wolfangels . I had more SS stuff but sold off most of it ,or (with the help of this site) found out it was repro ! But thats life .
Glad you like it
Cheers Chris
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06-01-2012, 10:44 PM
#298
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06-02-2012, 09:25 AM
#299
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
Very nice cap FB!! Your collection is outstanding
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06-02-2012, 02:30 PM
#300
Re: Post your favorite SS Item!!
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Badto666
Very nice cap FB!! Your collection is outstanding
Thank you. I could surely display it better in a larger space, but such has never been possible or practical. Its display is really here on this site. Be of good cheer, FB
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