Reichsparteitag 1938.

**Dimas** · 02-17-2012, 09:19 AM

Looks like they had drunk a lot: This lists SS stuff found after it was lost.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-17-2012 09:19 AM

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**HPL2008** · 02-17-2012, 05:01 PM

Thanks for sharing this.

Some of those items are just the usual things that typically get lost and found at major events - like a pocket knife, a cigarette case, some wallets - but some others probably resulted in their previous carriers' having an unpleasant conversation with their superiors, like the four SS daggers, the backpack or the new-model flag bearer's breast shield.

By the way: The descriptions for two of the wallets (items # 18 and 19 on the list) are actually interesting. Both were brown, horseshoe-shaped shake-out wallets; # 18 was adorned with a death's head and # 19 with a national eagle. (It is not specified whether these embellishments were metal badges, embossed designs or applied in some other way.) Those wallets would likely be dismissed as fantasy items or put-together if they surfaced today.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-17-2012, 05:58 PM

by HPL2008

Thanks for sharing this.

Some of those items are just the usual things that typically get lost and found at major events - like a pocket knife, a cigarette case, some wallets - but some others probably resulted in their previous carriers' having an unpleasant conversation with their superiors, like the four SS daggers, the backpack or the new-model flag bearer's breast shield.

By the way: The descriptions for two of the wallets (items # 18 and 19 on the list) are actually interesting. Both were brown, horseshoe-shaped shake-out wallets; # 18 was adorned with a death's head and # 19 with a national eagle. (It is not specified whether these embellishments were metal badges, embossed designs or applied in some other way.) Those wallets would likely be dismissed as fantasy items or put-together if they surfaced today.

Well said. This lost and found rubric appears again and again in the SS Befehlsblaetter. The fact that the owners of said edged weapons and what not did not inscribe their SS numbers is further proof that these super human Aryans were just people, and gives lie to the idea that all rules were carried out with perfection.
Anyone who has bee in a military organization knows that the loss of property is also quite normal, as well. This item is also a reminder of why the primary sources themselves are vital to a comprehension of the SS versus the endless picture books that recycle the same five hundred images, the sum of which says little about the organization as we collectors have to comprehend it.

**Adrian Stevenson** · 02-18-2012, 07:14 PM

Excellent thread.

Cheers, Ade.

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-18-2012, 07:17 PM

A close reading of these SS Befehlsblaetter in their entirety is a must for the serious collector. Other websites have a group of anti intellectual thugs who make the posting of this kind of demanding source impossible.

**Tricot** · 02-19-2012, 12:36 AM

Where can one obtain copies of these primordial documents?

**Friedrich-Berthold** · 02-19-2012, 12:48 AM

by Tricot

Where can one obtain copies of these primordial documents?

The old fashion source is the US National Archives microform of same. They are reprinted in part on a Polish website, which is on this site and included under a recent heading for the SS Dienstalterliste. The Polish website has included a smattering of useful primary documents. There may be other on line resources now, and one might ask the research librarians at a good university about same, too.