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03-21-2015 10:16 PM
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Well thought out and a detailed explanation which will be a great help for the Heer type collector. Great Job Kevin. Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Kevin Super grouping! And rare examples. Love the personalization that dagger is real special it has it all condition - rarity and then a killer personalization. Puma made some interesting early configurations. I really love the early Generic Type-1 crossguard great looking bird. The Pack 3 usage as you point out is an interesting evolution it dates and confirms this guard is fairly early I would say early 36 while most collectors would assume the Pack 3 would be later in the period. Your Puma with the Pack 3 is quite rare as you know with the silver plate (only one I have seen) but as you also know several examples with aluminum Pack 3 guards are known so you did well having the insight to pick up this missing link in the Puma evolution. You think the scabbard bands may be an early generic variety? They look like the ones on my Plumacher. Congratulations on a superior grouping of Pumas.
Last edited by Larry C; 06-13-2015 at 02:52 PM.
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Tom, You make some good points about this next generation slant. Most would have assumed that the Pack third came about post 37', this seems to show that it was available in 36' (wish this one had the enhanced wings like your killer Ivory Puma!). The scabbard is a question for me too, it may just be a Puma enhanced Pack having flat head screws like the early Puma produced scabbard. This would fall in line with your 2nd gen. Plumacher as it has the type 2 Pack fittings so the scabbard was probably sourced from Pack too.
Any more interesting variation Puma's out there?? Show them if you've got them! Kevin.
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Kevin I was comparing the bands on my Plumacher slant they look very similar to the ones on your earliest Puma slants – early generic scabbard? I like your thinking on the later scabbard I have always studied the crossguards extensively and the other parts to some extent but lots of research capabilities still abound on the scabbards-pommels & grips.
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I think you 2 Gents have them all
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
- Larry C
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
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Tom, I still think this band type is a Puma exclusive (JMO), My two examples conform to each other and when compared to the Plumacher initial scabbard bands that are also used on my Axt und Hauer example show differences in the shape of the bands where they meet at their seems and both the Pumas have the leaves running in the opposite direction from the Plumacher/Axt band. Scabbard body does look near identical though! Perhaps a early generic scabbard with Puma's bands? Kevin.
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I do need to post this retraction... the scabbard body on the initial Puma examples are STEEL based! Thought I had tested it earlier! Sorry for that.. (edited in initial post) Kevin.
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a nice report enjoyed it.
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