Heer dagger: Real or fake?

[talltom]

is the crossguard not a holler as they all have small (ish) beaks but the one shown above is a lot longer?

[Adrian Stevenson]

wardaggers.com - German Army Dagger Crossguard Makers Reference

[stekker]

Very educative.
Alcoso crossguard on a Holler dagger?
No this isn'right: seems to be generic B or Herder on a Holler dagger.

Gr. Theo.

[Walkwolf]

Great links for info on the Heer dagger, Ade.........!

[prinz eugen]

Rbminis yes i know that you answer me but you was the only one. Ade the link is greate but my english is bad so i don't understand some words.

[Walkwolf]

Very educative. Alcoso crossguard on a Holler dagger?Gr. Theo.

Looks more like the 'generic - type B' crossguard to me.........

[rbminis]

Hi Ade,
A great link that I will keep!
When he first posted it, he did not show it apart. Now that I look at it a little closer, (better photos would still help) I do not really like it. The quality of the blade grind is less than I would expect, where the blade would rest against the leather buffer is not even. If this were made by Holler, I would expect better workmanship.
Also I am not sure which Alcoso guard this represents as I do not see a match on the link that you posted. At best, I think either a repro or a parts dagger.
Ralph.

[stekker]

Oke, here i go again.
None of the shown crossguards looks like the crossguard on the Holler dagger.

Gr. Theo.

[prinz eugen]

i can post better picture but i dont know what you need

[Walkwolf]

I've also read that if you can see a swirling pattern on a Heer
scabbard - rather than a mass of dots - it's fake.........