Good spot by Peter, certainly looks like an ACS 3rd to me as well. Whoever put this dagger together knew what they were doing, very hard sometimes to distinguish between the Eick 2nd and ACS 3rd......clever but not clever enough.
Good spot by Peter, certainly looks like an ACS 3rd to me as well. Whoever put this dagger together knew what they were doing, very hard sometimes to distinguish between the Eick 2nd and ACS 3rd......clever but not clever enough.
Amazing knowledge here Gents...Bravo...these Heer daggers were so swapped out and parted around..it takes eyes like these here on this thread to weed it out. Hard to follow sometimes. Great thread!! Regards Larry
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
This dagger does have a gorgeous grip - and for someone like myself,
I wouldn't have known or cared about the differences, except
when it came to price.
Is it possible that the original crossguard had been
de-Nazified and replaced with another.........?
Regards,
Steve.
Very possible and probably the number one reason why you find cross-guards replaced. Personally I would much rather have the original left in place, it is not pretty to have the swastika and wreath missing or ground off but many people forget that most of the time this process was undertaken during or shortly after the end of the war by the soldiers who seized them as keepsakes. It is part of the daggers history to me!.
Yes!!by Degens
To those who see these type of daggers without the Swaz symbol..have no clue of the dagger and think nothing of it..and just being another knife..but when the symbol is present on the crossguard..or pommel...that is when questions are asked. I abhor denazifiaction..on the grounds that history must be taught and not hidden..as dark and horrible as the time period was.
I absolutely agree also...that the symbol is a great part of the history in remembrance and study.
It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!!
One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C
“The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill
Peter,
thank you very much for your expert and informed opinion it is really helpful.
The dagger is not expensive so I have agreed a sale with the seller based on the information that you have given.
When it arrives I will post some better pictures and add it to this thread.
Best regards
Doug
Hi Doug, thanks for you kind comment, Army officer daggers are my main interest, so that is why I have to study this kind of edged weapons so much. And of course I have very good teacher - Mr. Jon, administrator and owner of wardaggers.com
Regards Peter
Hello Peter, Chaps,
thank you all for your input so far.
The dagger has arrived and following Peter's link to the Daggers forum it seems conclusive that the hilt is indeed an Alcoso 3rd pattern. I do note a few differences...miniscule ones but this may be down to the hand finishing after the thing has been cast.
The Eickhorn blade is actually very nice......far better than the original pictures so I am quite pleased about that.
Under are some goodish close ups. First up is a general viewMany thanks
Doug
Next is the pommel and that damned Alcoso hilt (looks like a dog to me)
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