Why the difference in eagles?

[StuG III]

Just to clarify, I have seen the first in post15 named as being RS-RKB. Is that the same as the Soldatenbund?
Tom

[schnellmann]

Thanks for all the info guys.

[HPL2008]

Just to clarify, I have seen the first in post15 named as being RS-RKB. Is that the same as the Soldatenbund?

RS-RKB can't be right; that would have to be NS-RKB.

Anyway; this was a different organization from the Soldatenbund.

In 1921, numerous veterans' leagues and organizations were united into the "Deutscher Reichskriegerbund 'Kyffhäuser'". (DRKB) (The Kyffhäuserbund had already existed much earlier in different form; but this is of no relevance here.) This DRKB was eventually reorganized and re-named into the NS-Reichskriegerbund or NS-RKB.

The Soldatenbund was only founded in 1936 and was a short-lived organization; it was already incorporated into the NS-RKB around 1938/1939.

By the way; you might find this thread interesting, too:
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/cloth...atenbund-4278/

[HPL2008]

Allow me to add, just for the sake of completeness, that in 1938, the newly-reorganized and re-named NS-RKB became the only permitted veterans' organization.
Following this, all other still-existing veterans' organizations - including the aforementioned Soldatenbund - were fully absorbed into it and ceased to exist as such.
The only exception (of sorts) was the NSDMB, which was allowed to retain its name, but was also subordinated and attached to the NS-RKB.
The NS-RKB was officially disbanded in 1943.

[John Brandon]

I posted this a few months ago, so it won't hurt to show again......................

Originally, the design was to show the eagle's head facing to its right when used as a national symbol, and to its left when used as a Nazi Party symbol, but this convention was not always followed

Most government and Party buildings, and some other architectural projects such as Autobahn bridges built during the Nazi period featured the Reichs Eagle as a prominent decoration. In spite of a series of proclamations and orders from the Allied Occupation Forces in 1945-46, forbidding the wearing or display of Nazi uniforms or insignia, and ordering the removal of Nazi monuments, statues, and street signs, a number of these Reichs Eagles remain today (most are missing their swastikas, but not all). Almost all of the insignia you will see has the eagles head facing to the right. a few exceptions that I can think of are the police sleeve eagles, and the Luftwaffe Recon clasp( although that only has the head, not the whole body)Hope this piece of trivia helps, however, I'm sure there's someone else out there with a bit more info.


And how about the building in Munich in 1934 an existing building at Hanfstaenglstraße 16-20 was converted to a swastika shape, which is still plainly visible from the air

[debbi082009]

There are NO reason and NO strikt orders for facing the eagle. You will find some patches and badges with different facings for same model.

Your needles are membership badges of the german veteran organisation "Reichskriegerbund". The gold one is for the "NS-Deutscher Marinebund", the Navy-Veterans. It was a part of NS-Reichskriegerbund. The silver one was for all other members (army verterans, air force veterans, non military members). Worn on left collar

[StuG III]

Allow me to add, just for the sake of completeness, that in 1938, the newly-reorganized and re-named NS-RKB became the only permitted veterans' organization.
Following this, all other still-existing veterans' organizations - including the aforementioned Soldatenbund - were fully absorbed into it and ceased to exist as such.
The only exception (of sorts) was the NSDMB, which was allowed to retain its name, but was also subordinated and attached to the NS-RKB.
The NS-RKB was officially disbanded in 1943.

Sorry to be coming back to this, but I understand what you are saying about the Soldatenbund, NS-RKB and the NS-DMB, but where does the veteran's association NS-KOV fit into this lot?
Tom

[HPL2008]

Sorry to be coming back to this, but I understand what you are saying about the Soldatenbund, NS-RKB and the NS-DMB, but where does the veteran's association NS-KOV fit into this lot?

The NSKOV was a different type of organization. This was the Nationalsozialistische Kriegsopferversorgung , i.e. the National Socialist War Victims' Support Service.
As such, it was not a traditions/veterans association, but a social welfare organization set up by the Nazi Party in 1930 to help and assist in the welfare of victims of World War I, but also of Party members who had suffered harm in the period of fighting with the Communists. (It later absorbed all other organizations with similiar purposes.)

[debbi082009]

The NS-KOV dos not have anything to do with the NS-Reichskriegerbund. Before reorganization there where a lot of war victim organisations, sometimes as sub-organisations under veteran organisations. When it become to new-organise and rename the Deutsche Reichskriegerbund to NS-Reichskriegerbund all war victim organisations were absorbed into the NS-KOV "Nationalsozialistische Kriegsopferversorgung". Same happend to the Kyffhäuser-Youth. The boys were absorbed into the HJ "Hitler-Jugend" , the girls into the BDM "Bund Deutscher Mädchen" and the women into the NSF "Nationalsozialistische Frauenschaft". The NS-Reichskriegerbund kept only.... Soldiers!

[StuG III]

Thank you very much for the explanations guys.
Can either of you recommend a book pertaining to this subject, which covers all the different organisations?
Tom