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Reichswehr - 1935 Unit Marked

Article about: A new addition to the Reichswehr buckles. This is a very interesting buckle and the price was nice as well. Full Overhoff & Cie leather maker mark and very nice overall condition. Just p

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    A new addition to the Reichswehr buckles. This is a very interesting buckle and the price was nice as well. Full Overhoff & Cie leather maker mark and very nice overall condition. Just pre-Third Reich 1935 buckle and nicely unit stamped. And, the is buckle is from the Angolia collection and is on page 66 of the revised edition book.

    Any insight on the unit marking is appreciated, I could not locate any information on this stamping myself.
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    Machine gun battalion??? Or is not your question?
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Yes, the unit marking mystery is the question

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    I'm taking a stab and am probably wrong as I don't study this..I'm sure this is 2nd nature to others and hopefully they come along for you...

    2nd MG Company / 2nd Battalion / 2nd Regiment ????

    Here is a WW1 1914 German Organizational chart. MG were are listed as a company.

    Reichswehr - 1935 Unit Marked

    And this...It says there were 3 MG companies...but this is 1914, not intrawar years.

    Reichswehr - 1935 Unit Marked
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thanks. But this buckle is what I would loosely call a 'transitional pre-Third Reich 1935 buckle ' Given that, do not think 1914 Org Charts are applicable. To be sure, this 1935-36 period was a rapidly changing time, and so quite interesting

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    I actually had a typo

    I meant to write 2nd Company / 2nd MG Battalion / 2nd Regiment

    Yes, the pics are WW1 but it was to give general idea.

    This might help a bit more after some more digging. But it is WW2 era MG Battalions.

    Lexikon der Wehrmacht

    And this......(which is a partial translation of the above)

    Each MG-Bataillon had:

    Bataillonsstab (Battalion headquarters) w/
    -Bataillonskommandeur
    -Adjudant
    -Ordonannzoffizier
    -Bataillonsarzt
    -Techn. Offizier
    -Stabspersonal
    -Nachrichtenzug (signal platoon)

    Drei MG-Kompanien (1. bis 3. Kp) (3 MG companies 1-3) w/
    -Kompaniechef
    -Kompanietrupp
    -Nachrichtenstaffel (transmission) mit Fernsprechtrupp und Funktrupp (one radio and one telephone squad)
    -Vier schwere Maschinengewehr-Züge (4 heavy MG platoons) w/ each:
    Zugführer
    Zwei Gruppen mit je 2 sMG (2 squads with 2 heavy MG each)

    Schwere Kompanie (Heavy company) w/
    -Pionierzug (engineer platoon)
    -Infanteriegeschützzug (2 leichte IG) (infantry gun platoon w/ 2 75mm howitzers)
    -Pak-Zug (antitank platoon, composition unknown)
    -Granatwerferzug (6 Granatwerfer 8 cm) (mortar platoon with 6 80mm mortar)

    that's 48 heavy MGs per battalion, and it was fully motorized.
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    I believe MAP is going in the right direction here.. Military abbreviations and jargon still hold true to this day in certain instances... Nice buckle too..
    I'd rather be A "RaD Man than a Mad Man "

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    NIce buckle Jeff and a nice pick up mate, I would go for Machine gun company also to be honest
    Ben

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    Hello,

    it means :

    2./ Maschinen Gewehr Batalion 2.Kompanie II.Zug
    Regards ,
    Markus


    I'm searching for
    Buckles 3.Reich

    special SA/NSKK/NSFK with maker marks


    Link to my collection : http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/album.php?albumid=1175



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    Machine Gun Battalion it is! Thanks all

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