Flak-Kampfabzeichen der Luftwaffe

[Cameron Stockton]

Hi

Its been a long time since I posted on the forum but I am back!

Today I visited this new militaria shop local to where I live and purchased a Flak-Kampfabzeichen der Luftwaffe, which I'm pretty sure is correct but I was hoping someone might be able to comment of the manufacturer. I have had a look but have not been able to work it out as yet due to the fact that it is the first time I have branched out into Luftwaffe badges and am a bit lost!

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Cameron

[Cameron Stockton]

From what I found doing some searches is it possibly a Juncker made example?

Thanks

Cameron

[Adrian]

The reverse hardware would lead me to suggest a Juncker but there are variations in the gun/wreath and the eagle and a mixture of all of them so maybe someone with better knowledge of these can identify the particular variant. The gun/wreath is no match for mine which is a transitional piece.

[Cameron Stockton]

Hi

Thanks for the input Adrian, always appreciated. How are you keeping?

Cameron

[big ned]

The eagle matches non of the known Junker types whether transitional, J1, J2 or J3. In fact I can't see it matching any other known Luft Flak badge that is genuine. It does look to be almost a cousin of the 'claw foot' fake eagle that is a fantasy design. IMO the key point here is the position of the legs and feet, can anyone find the same on a genuine Luft Flak badge of any sort??

Here's a fake S&L flak with a similar eagle as above, especially the position of the legs and feet, one directly on top of the other and touching.



Rather strange.....

A typical Juncker eagle, notice the different leg/feet position.



Regards, Ned.

[Cameron Stockton]

Hi Ned,

Thanks for the comparison, hopefully not a fake but I will have to wait and see...

Cameron

[big ned]

Hi Ned,

Thanks for the comparison, hopefully not a fake but I will have to wait and see...

Cameron

Hi Cam,

Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all certain about this badge being good or bad, but it certainly confuses me! It's just that the eagle which to me is something unfamiliar, and also the strange catch on a square plate that I've not seen before, make me question it's veracity. But I'm a relative novice when it comes to these particular badges and would be happy to have my concerns allayed by a more experienced eye!

Whatever it is, it's an interesting piece to me, and I would like to learn more.

Regards, Ned.

[Adrian]

Here's my Juncker transitional piece which is obviously completely different than Cameron's.....

[Cameron Stockton]

Hi guys,

Just had some band news from Wehrmacht Awards, they believe it is a fake example. However I will wait for some more input before going back to the shop, just to make sure.

Thanks for your help though.

Cameron

[big ned]

Here's my Juncker transitional piece which is obviously completely different than Cameron's.....

Agreed from the start mate! It's noticable that the eagle is clutching the swastika with it's left foot, which is what appears to me to be the norm for all known makers of the Luft Flak, but on Cam's badge and the fake S&L I've shown above, it's the right foot. This is the detail that I'm finding difficult to resolve, so if anyone can put me out my misery I would appreciate it as after looking around for a while I'm still stumped. Where's Leon when you need him???

Discombobulated, Ned.