Heer Flakkampfabzeichen: Need help (again!)

[Aaron]

These are the flakabzeichen that i posted about before.Not sure about either! The first is marked L/10
This next one is marked ce juncker berlin sw,sorry about rear of badge photo,will post another if needed.All advice gladly received.Thanx

[Stewy S]

Sorry these are fake. Stewy

[Aaron]

Both of them?

[Stewy S]

I think so,have you got clearer pics? Stewy

[Aaron]

Will take more pics tomorrow,hopefully better ones my photo skills aren"t great.Thanx for your help

[Anubis]

Sorry but don't need better pictures, Deschler didn't made flak and the other one is totally different from a Juncker too.

[Aaron]

Thanks,wasnt confident on either,maybe i should take up collecting fakes because i seem to be good at it

[Adrian]

Hello Aaron,
Here's my unmarked Juncker for you to compare to. The catch is replaced but all else is as it should be.
Any chance you could edit your pics so they're the right way up please?