Kriegsabzeichen für Hilfskreuzer, Info wanted

**m1nelab** · 02-22-2015, 03:58 PM

Hi all, please except my apologies if I dont get all of the terminology correct this is new to me. When my grandad died some years back, he left me a few items he had collected during WWII and the one i am posting about I have no ideas other than general info located on google. I am trying to pin down the maker, whether this is badge is genuine and a value incase I need to decalre on my insurance... so any information would be greatly received

The item is most defo a Kriegsmarine Kriegsabzeichen für Hilfskreuzer//Auxiliary Cruiser war badge, two part construction but thats my lot really

regards Tony

Kriegsabzeichen für Hilfskreuzer, Info wanted

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-22-2015 03:58 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**rbminis** · 02-22-2015, 04:25 PM

Hello and welcome to the forum!

This appears to me to be a product of Steinhauer & Lück, with an oval hinge and a thin pin. Most of the makers of this award produced them with a wide pin. There are only about three makers that made it with a round wire pin.
As these are not my area of study, best wait for other answers.
Ralph.
P.S. I have renamed your thread just to shorten it a bit.

**big ned** · 02-22-2015, 04:34 PM

Hi Tony and welcome to the forum!

IMO the badge is an original oval hinge zinc Hilfskreuzer by Steinhauer & Luck that's lost all it's finish. The two piece construction, rivet and rear hardware (that is also seen on some S&L PAB's) all look good to me. Martinw is the guy for these however, so perhaps he'll see this and give a definitive comment as I believe these are his favourite KM badges!

Regards, Ned.

**m1nelab** · 02-22-2015, 05:04 PM

Hi rbminis and big ned - wow thats quick, thanks for the kind welcome and current info

**rbminis** · 02-22-2015, 05:28 PM

Welcome Tony!

Happy to be able to help as I said, these are not really my area of study.
Ralph.

**martinw** · 02-22-2015, 07:10 PM

Hi Tony,and welcome.

IMO you have a good,original piece by Steinhauer & Luck,as mentioned by the others.

The hinge,rivet and globe are of the type we like to see on what we beleive are wartime produced badges by S&L. Your badge features what we consider a type 1 globe,unflawed with the narrow lines of longitude and latitude.
Later postwar globes had wider lines and flawed bow waves as shown below.
I have also shown an example of the same type of badge that i have by S&L.
Period S&L HSK badges can be found with about four different types of reverse hardware.
Regards,Martin.

**m1nelab** · 02-22-2015, 07:18 PM

Hi Martin, thanks for that valuable info. Would you mind if I ask what the value of this item might be?

Cheers Tony

**rbminis** · 02-22-2015, 07:32 PM

by m1nelab

Hi Martin, thanks for that valuable info. Would you mind if I ask what the value of this item might be?

Cheers Tony

Hello Tony,
Though some may give you a rough value, we are not a free appraisal service. You can visit various dealer's sites to get a retail value on this item now that you know what you have.
Ralph.

**martinw** · 02-22-2015, 07:41 PM

OK,

i don't buy badges anymore and i do not keep up on current prices.However,despite the bent mainpin i would think that this badge was worth about $400.00 USD?
Just my opinion though,it may be worth more?

Cheers,Martin.

**m1nelab** · 02-22-2015, 07:41 PM

Sorry Ralph didnt mean to upset anybody, as I have a serious coin collection and Philatelic collection, if the piece is valuable I would want to include in my detail insurance... but you are correct I will seek a proper valuation, a question would be tho who should I contact for this purpose as this is out of my area of expertise

thanks again all

Tony